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Puppy won’t sleep

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Tasha85, Jan 25, 2021.


  1. Tasha85

    Tasha85 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi all, I have a puppy that will not sleep by night. She is 9weeks now and we have had her for a week.
    We are all for crate training I just don’t think she. She is not scared of the crate as she takes herself in and out of the crate through the day to sleep.
    She settles in crate at around 10pm and we all take ourselves to bed. Then every 1hr and 15minutes , sometimes it is for toilet but 9/10 I think it is for our attention? She just wants to cwtch in. Not really sure where to go from this?
     
  2. JoanneF

    JoanneF PetForums VIP

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    Well, yes it is for attention; but not because she wants to push your buttons, its because she needs you.

    can you have her bed in your room, or you sleep in her room? It doesn't have to be forever, once she is sleeping through the night you can start to move her bed, in stages, towards the room you want her to use.

    At this stage, she is an infant who has just been separated from mum and littermates and meeting her emotional needs is just as important as meeting her physical needs. When she is crying, it is because she is alone in the dark and anxious.

    By you being there for her, you won't make her clingy, you will help her develop her confidence by protecting her from the scary night time and she will grow in confidence as she learns there is nothing to fear. You are not ”rewarding her crying,” you are meeting a fundamental need of an infant.

    Hopefully you wouldn't leave a child who was afraid of the dark to cry themselves to sleep, alone. Your puppy is the same. The dogs that stop crying don't do so because they suddenly realise everything is ok, they do it because they have given up hope. It is an extreme example but in trauma victims, it's the silent ones who are most damaged.

    This article explains the science behind it. http://www.simplybehaviour.com/letting-dog-cry-cause-permanent-damage/

    It is a good idea to start helping her develop independence soon though, and Emma Judson's Flitting Game, described about ⅔ of the way down this link is a good way to start. https://www.thecanineconsultants.co.uk/post/separation-anxiety-fact-vs-fiction
     
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    lorilu PetForums VIP

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    Agree with the above. Tiny baby, shouldn't be left to sleep alone. Bring her to your room (you have to get up to take her out anyway) or sleep in her room with her. In a few weeks she'll be more settled.
     
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  4. Tasha85

    Tasha85 PetForums Newbie

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    We get up and take her out yes! but I have read so many things, like leaving them cry in her crate or sleeping next to them? There is so much information to take in I’m not sure what to follow. Like I said her crate is not the issue. I guess it’s the being alone at night. She is not in the dark and her crate is not locked
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    No one here is going to tell you what you are doing is right.

    We will tell you it takes longer than a week to crate train a dog. Your dog after a week will be a shadow of herself.

    We will tell you yes, if you leave her to cry she will settle in your eyes eventually. What's really happened is she has given up crying as it's futile no one comes and she actually shuts down. Leading to a less confident puppy which could start acting out with a whole host of behavioural issues later in life. Possibly when confidence peaks so this is when she hits teenage stage, and if you think the puppy stage is hard the teenage stage can be so much worse. There is a reason why so many 6 months plus dogs end up in rescue.

    Keep her with you to sleep for now and slowly wean her to sleep on her own later but no, not next week. That crate needs to be the greatest place ever, at the moment it's more somewhere she's noticed to hide. Google crate games it's a great way to play and bond more.
     
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    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

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    Have her crate by your bed so she knows you’re nearby or have her in your bed for a while.

    The less anxious she is in the early days (and nights) the sooner she’s going to be a happy, well adjusted dog, able to settle on her own and feel safe and secure in her home.
     
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    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    We had ours in his crate in our room from 8 weeks, he cried a bit at 1st but soon settled with some soothing words. He still sleeps in there now and he's 6 months. At 1st he would wake once in the night for the toilet but after a couple of weeks was sleeping through. He does about 9 hours now without any bother.
     
  8. Emlar

    Emlar PetForums Member

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    We slept downstairs on the sofa with our pup for the first week, and now he sleeps downstairs on his own quite happily. They just need settling in :)
     
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    lorilu PetForums VIP

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    As the others have said, never leave her to cry. She needs to learn that you are there and will come if she needs you. Leaving a puppy to cry is setting her up for a life time of separation anxiety. This forum is full of threads on it. Teach her confidence by being there for her. If you want her to listen to you, when training starts, you need to listen to her too.
     
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