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Puppy pad training

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Chelseak12349876, May 4, 2021 at 6:52 AM.

  1. Chelseak12349876

    Chelseak12349876 PetForums Newbie

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    Good morning I am having issues with my 8 week old pup English bulldog he uses his mats during the day but at nighttime we come down to poo and wee all over the place! He has a puppy create I have been leaving this and Open putting a pad outside it is this right? We have an enclosed garden that no other dogs have access too I need some
    Help because during the day he’s absolutely fine!
  2. LinznMilly

    LinznMilly Moderator
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    Jun 24, 2011
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    Hi. Welcome to the forum. :)

    I've moved this to its own thread, because the one you posted in is 3 years old, and the original members have moved on. :)

    We don't advice using puppy pads for house training - not even for young puppies who can't go for walks yet. Instead, we advice members to take them out regularly - every 30-45 minutes or so, and to watch them like a hawk for signs they may need to go - signs like sniffing the floor, circling, etc, and if/when they do, to get them outside quick.

    At night, where is he? Is he in your room with you, or in the kitchen or living room? If he's with you, just ignore the next bit. It's best to have him with you - either in his crate in your room, on the bed with you, or, if you can't have the crate in your room, then you sleep with him on the couch. He's a baby who's just left everything he's ever known, so keeping him with you - especially during the night - helps him feel more secure, as well as helping with toilet training (because you're more likely to hear him wake up and shuffle about if he's right beside you).

    Either way, night time is the same as during the day - you need to get up and get him outside.

    Clean up any accidents with a specially formulated enzyme cleaner which breaks down the enzymes that tell him this is the toilet. Keep your body language and facial expressions neutral, and if you have to say something, say it in a jokey way ("someone's left a Code Brown/Code Pee! Clean Up in Kitchenware" instead of "Bad dog!") When he goes where you want him to go, act like he's just won Crufts Best of Show. Tiny bits of sausage, cheese or chicken rain from the sky just as he finishes his business so that he knows that's why he's being rewarded.

    Hope that helps. :)
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  3. JoanneF

    JoanneF PetForums VIP

    Feb 1, 2016
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    + 1 for getting rid of the pads. They have their place for dogs that really can't go out because of illness etc but for puppies, they give mixed messages about whether indoor toileting is allowed or not.

    Toilet training happens when two things come together - the ABILITY to hold the toilet, along with the DESIRE to hold it in order to earn the reward for doing so.

    Ideally you want her to not be in a position where she needs to toilet before you have her outdoors, so that every toilet is outside - as far as possible, there will be accidents! So set her up to succeed by taking her out even more than she needs; for example every 45 minutes to an hour and always after sleeping, eating, playing. The time between a puppy realising they need to toilet, and being unable to hold that toilet, is zero. So your aim is to have her outside before she can't help herself. When she toilets outdoors make a huge fuss (never mind the neighbours, act like outdoor toileting is the best thing you have ever seen) and reward her with a high value treat. Do that immediately, don't make her come to you for the treat so she is clear that it's for toileting and not for coming to you. The idea is that she wants to earn the treat enough to hold the toilet until she is outside - once she is physically able to control her toileting obviously. As she is actually performing the toilet you can introduce words she can associate with it (like 'do weewee' and 'busy busy') that later when she is reliably trained you can use these to tell her when you want her to toilet.

    If you take her out and she doesn't toilet after five minutes, bring her in but don't take your eyes off her. Any hint of a toilet inside, scoop h8er up and get her out fast. If she doesn't try to toilet indoors (great!) take her out a second time and repeat until you do get outside toilets. You need the outside toilet to happen SO that you can reward SO that she learns.

    If she has an accident inside don't give any hint of being cross. If you get annoyed she may learn to fear your reaction and avoid you if she needs to toilet (by going off and toileting out of sight) - the opposite of what you want. Dogs cant make the distinction between you being annoyed at them TOILETING, as opposed to toileting INDOORS.
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