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hi

i have just recently got a lurcher puppy he will be 10 weeks on thursday i am just wondering if anyone could advice me on the best puppy for him so he doesn't get the runs i wasn't given any food with him. so i have had him on bakers complete puppy but it seems to have made him a bit soft.

 

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Welcome to PF! Your puppy is beautiful.

Bakers will be making him soft because it's terrible food :eek: have a look at the Dry food index in the health and nutrition section, it's really helpful! Theres also raw and wet food if you are interested in feeding those. :)
 

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Personaly i would stay off Bakers -there are far to many bad ingridients
Best is to feed your dog best food that you can afford
I started my pup in nature diet and nature harvest (wet food)-it made her white coat shiny -and silky smooth .due to food allergies i had to change food to hypoallergic one -but it made me more aware on what companies actually put in a dog food
Now shes on james wellbeloved (some dogs dont agree with the foods-as there are no brands to be good for all) what i would sugest is try different brands -but when you change do it gradualy , not to upset puppy tummy .
Also look on how much % of whole food is meat . Avoid anything with wheat -and sadly most of supermarket brands do use it to "bulk it up"
Sorry for any mystakes or gramma but im Polish ;-)
 

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thanks very much i was going to try him on beta or proplus just wondering if anyone has used any of these before and what they thought i don't really want to put him on tinned meat as my other dog is not allowed it and could cause arguments at tea time lol
 
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thanks very much i was going to try him on beta or proplus just wondering if anyone has used any of these before and what they thought i don't really want to put him on tinned meat as my other dog is not allowed it and could cause arguments at tea time lol
Beta isn`t a ton better
Here is the ingredients in their puppy formula
Cereals (min. 4% Rice), Meat and Animal Derivatives (min. 4% Lamb), Derivatives of Vegetable Origin (min. 0.5% Beet Pulp), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Oils and Fats, Minerals, Vegetables (Min 0.5% Chicory).

First ingredient tends to be what the bulk of the food is. In this case its "Cereals" which could mean anything. Then its Meat and Animal Derivatives which means it doesn`t have to be lamb meat it could be lamb tongue or lamb hoof, they aren`t that bad but you get my gist it just isn`t specific enough for me because they can put pretty much anything in there. Then the list goes on.. Its better than Bakers anything is; however its not the best and there is much better for the price.
15kg of Beta is £36.99

Lets look at Arden Grange for example
Fresh chicken (18%), chicken meat meal (18%), rice, maize, beet pulp, chicken oil, whole dried egg, yeast, fish meal, chicken digest, linseed, fish oil, prebiotic FOS, prebiotic MOS, cranberries, yucca extract, glucosamine, MSM, chondroitin, nucleotides.

Fresh chicken is mainly water so thats about 6% meat (just a rough guess) then there is chicken meal which is much better. So about 24% meat. Then there is rice it is still a filler but considered one of the "good" fillers although not specified here brown is better than white. Maize is corn which is difficult for dogs to digest but if your dog doesn`t have an allergy to it then you could get away with it. The list goes on but you get my gist. Arden Grange is MUCH better than Beta and it is
£38.30 for 12kg. Just a few quid more than Beta and although the bag is smaller it will last longer because its better they need less

If you really want to go best but for cheap there is Simpsons Premium Sensitive
The ingredients is

Deboned Salmon*, Dried Salmon*, Potato, Sunflower Oil, Beet Pulp, Potato Protein, Dried Egg, Salmon Oil, Salmon Stock, Vitamins, Brewers Yeast, Minerals, Linseeds, Mannanoligosaccharides (MOS), Fructooligosaccharides (FOS), Yucca Extract, Cranberries, Nucleotides, Glucosamine, MSM, Chondroitin.

The star means 45% salmon BUT it is fresh so less, then there is dried salmon which contains all the meat. It contains about 30% meat. Potato is gentle on digestion and much better than grains. It is completely grain free so easier for dogs to digest and many dogs thrive on a completely grain free diet.
Price?
12 kilos £38.95
As above you feed less so it lasts longer and actually works out cheaper :)

Best of luck here are the links
Puppy Sensitive Salmon & Potato
Nutritional Premium Dog and Cat Food - Arden Grange
 

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hmmm that is very interesting thanks puppy mum, i have always had dogs but to be fair i have never looked at their foods that closely now with the pup i am obvisually having to. very interesting can see having this pup is going to be a learning curve for all of us
 

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If you are on a budget then consider CSJ or Simpsons Premium.

Not brilliant, but a lot better then Bakers
Champ! Adult - CSJ Champ! - CSJK9 Ltd.

Better than the champ and bakers
That'll Do! - CSJ Original Dog Food - CSJK9 Ltd.

Better than all of the above
Adult Chicken & Rice

I have fed all of these foods in the past (currently feed the Simpsons). The 'That'll do' didn't go down too well - just my dogs tastes though! There are other higher quality brands out there, but all of these are certainly better than the Bakers!
 
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hmmm that is very interesting thanks puppy mum, i have always had dogs but to be fair i have never looked at their foods that closely now with the pup i am obvisually having to. very interesting can see having this pup is going to be a learning curve for all of us
Its never too late to learn ;)
 

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thanks puppy mum, i love my dogs nearly as much as i love my kids although some days i have to say i love the dogs more than a 2 and half yr old lmao. defo going to get some better dog food now for them though might help my labrador x keep her weight on in the winter aswell
 
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