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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by goodvic2, Nov 26, 2012.
Do you think inmates should have the right to vote or not?
I also think that certain convictions should remove the right to vote EVER
no they lost that right when they committed that criminal act
No, they shouldn't be allowed to vote!
When someone breaks the law they give up their right to vote.
No they should not have the right to vote!
Why should anyone who has commited an criminal offence and is serving time for that, have any say in what happens in the community?
I think once convicted of a criminal offence then prisoners should not be able to vote.
However, if someone is on remand then they should be able to vote as they have not been found guilty and so are regarded as innocent in the eyes of the law.
Completely agree with all of the above.
Commit a crime, get a jail sentence, lose all 'human rights'. Simples!!!!
Voting is a privilege - privileges are lost when you commit a crime.
I spent ages trying to word my thoughts but kind of gave up :lol: You have said it perfectly MB!
thats what I think as well
what about the pensioners who refused to pay council tax?
or tony martin?
or someone convicted of assisting a suicide of someone terminally ill?
throughout history there have been countless times when people have been imprisoned for political reasons rather than criminal ones. Not to mention the countless wrongful incarcerations.
I'm fine with "Commit a crime, get a jail sentence, lose all 'human rights'" at such a point in time when we live in a world without corruption and you can be sure that jail sentences are only passed down to those that deserve them, and not sometimes to those who are simply dangerous to the hidden agendas of those in power.
Im fine with "Commit a crime, get a jail sentence, lose all 'human rights' once i agree that all the laws of the country are relevant, fair and justified, untill such time i am not.
heres just a few examples for you of "great" reasons people should, in your opinion, lose their human rights (since these things are criminal and apparently criminals should have no human rights...)
Definately pretty clear cut and justified reasons to deny someone of basic human rights i'm sure you'll agree
I'm going to say yes, I think at least some of them should be allowed to vote.
At the moment in the UK two people can be convicted of exactly the same crime but the one that gets a non-custodial sentence can vote whilt the one that gets the custodial sentence cannot. That's crazy and needs to change one way or another.
I also think a prisons focus should be on rehabilitation and that denying the most basic democratic right to vote is dehumanising and denies the prisoner the chance to be part of and take an interest in the wider society. The vast majority of prisoners get released and i'd rather they come out with the best possible chance of staying away from crime, i'm not sure how denying them the vote is going to do that?
I am very torn, while i believe people who have committed evil or unforgivable crimes should loose the right to vote i think there are the few that have not committed such dreadful acts they loose all rights.
Some have such dreadful life's to begin with that they see no other way than trying to make a life of crime pay.
Half of all prisoners under the age of 25 were in foster care. They have lead such dreadful lives and we are failing them every step of the way.
Why are we not spending more money on trying to make sure these children don't end up in this state.
Perhaps if prisoners had the right to vote they would know how they could have improved themselves, what help they needed to make a good and honest life for them self. This could be tried to be turned into something positive
Perhaps if they thought they had a voice, something they may never have felt in there whole life they would know what help to offer the new generation. Our justice system is clearly not working, and some people in there genuinely want to change and want to improve themselves.
I am not ignorant to the fact that many people in jail probably deserve it, i also think we should try and learn from them. They are only voting for a political party, they only make up a small part of the population, so why not give them the chance to make it better for the next generation who could also end up in jail.
Some people just need to be given a voice and they could probably do wonderful things. I know a man who was in jail many many years ago, he now helps try to keep young offenders on track, they listen to him because they respect him, because they know he suffered similar things they have. He makes them want to improve themselves because he has shown them it is possible.
I dont feel they should have the right for much!
I'm voting not sure because there are such a variety of crimes and differing circumstances which lead people in to prison
A big fat no from me...They wouldnt have beds if I had my way. A sheet on the cold floor would do.
Is that every prisoner without a bed? no matter what the crime???
NO they have no right to have the vote, if you have committed a crime you should have no rights to anything.
I'd allocate that to murderers and child/adult rapists/abusers.