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hi guys this is sadly my first post but i'm in desprate need of help.we have a 1.5 year old german shepard collie cross that we rescued when he was 7 months old.we both love him to bits but sadly we need to get rid of him as he has turned very nasty and vicious...he gone for me a few times but we gave him the benefit of doubt until tonight when he tried to bit my wifes face,its only because i managed to grab his collar that he didnt do much damage...he wasnt scared or startled.he's trained and has been done...im heartbroken to have to get rid but i cant risk having a nasty dog...please help as i have no idea as to what to do.
 

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I wold have him fully checked by the vet. If he comes out clear i would get a good behavourist in.

Is he a rescue from a centre? If so they should be your first port of call.
 

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I'm sorry to hear the problems you are having. Unfortunately, you cannot rehome him like this - no rescue would take him on with this history and it would be totally unfair to pass him on to someone else. I would contact the rescue you got him from and see what they say. I would also get him vet checked just to make sure there is not medical reason for his behaviour (there can be, particularly if he wasn't like that before). Failing all this, I think you must be prepared that you may have to have him pts.
 

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does he see you as the alpha male in your family?

has he been to training classes? the best thing for you to do would be to get a small notepad and pen, observe him very carefully over the next few weeks, watch for any signs and all movements that build up to this point where he gets defensive then note everything down.

this will help you to notice all the signs when he is getting scared or ready to strike and you will be able to prevent it from happening. i use this tactic with my dog as she has not been socialised with other dogs and was also a rescue, so far it has worked well.

if he does not give you *any* indication that he is going to bite/defend himself then you should contact a professional and see what they can do for you. if the rescue will not take him in the best thing for you to do whilst you carry on working on him is to keep him muzzled when he is at home and tell everyone to be extremely cautious around him.
 

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does he see you as the alpha male in your family?
has he been to training classes? [snip]...
if he does not give you *any* indication that he is going to bite/defend himself then you should contact a professional and see what they can do for you. if the rescue will not take him in the best thing for you to do whilst you carry on working on him is to keep him muzzled when he is at home and tell everyone to be extremely cautious around him.
hey, blue! :--)
hierarchy in dogs is not fixed; it is highly variable, context sensitive, and specific to ** dogs ** - not an inter-species factor,
e-g, no hierarchy is created or maintained by dogs re humans.

humans already HAVE all the power; we own the house, car, food, dog-bowl; we determine when or even IF the dog has any dog-social time with other dogs; we decide when + what dogs eat, when + what they get for exercise, etc.
so we are already despots with all the control.
and dogs are not attempting palace-coups. ;)

if the dog has been PUNISHED for warning -
using low-level signals that are intended to increase distance, like growls, stiffening, hard-stares, etc --
then the dog is forced to STOP warning, and must escalate to a bite when the behavior which is upsetting the dog,
continues or increases in intensity.

so watching for warnings may not help if this dog has been punished for warnings in the past. :(

i agree that finding a pos-R professional for B-Mod could be very helpful -
but it sounds as tho this owner has made a decision.
unfortunately, NO rescue will take a dog with a bite-history; unless the owner will work with a trainer + the dog,
chances are that the owner euthanizing the dog is the most-responsible act.
if the dog is given-up to a shelter, the decision is merely placed on the shelter - as is the co$t - which IMO,
is evading responsibility to ones dog.

very sad story,
--- terry
 

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If there really is no avoidable reason for the dog biting I think you would be irresponsible to either keep it or try and pass it on. I think you have to take the responsible attitude and have it put to sleep. The vet is your first port of call anyway to make sure there is no physical reason. If you want to give the dog a chance then try a behaviourist in case something you are doing is inadvertantly triggering the attacks but you and your family's safety needs to come first so dont feel guilty if you simply have him put to sleep for everyones safety.
 

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bailey doesnt show any warnings or anything,as before this isnt the first instance of being nasty but it is towards my wife,who now won't have anything to do with him as she is scared...just now waiting for the vets to open....thak you all for your advice...
 
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