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Pet A Puppy Owner invite with free training

Discussion in 'Dog Breeding' started by Petapuppy, Jun 28, 2017.


  1. Petapuppy

    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Hello everyone


    We are Pet A Puppy and we are searching for responsible puppy owners to attend our event (time and date TBC).


    Please visit https://www.meetup.com/London-Pet-A-Puppy/ and www.petapuppy.co.uk to find out more about our events of email me at pet_a_puppy@yahoo.com and https://www.meetup.com/Pet-A-Puppy-Puppy-Owners-meet-up/ to join if you wish to take part with your puppy.


    While we cannot offer cash incentives, we do have a handful of great incentives including free puppy training etc.


    We are searching for responsible and reliable puppy owners that live primarily in London. N.B. To ensure the health and safety of all the puppies and our doggy lovers, all puppies need to be a minimum of 8 weeks old, vet checked and insured. We need to see proof of chipping, vaccination (first vaccination at least) and worming. They need to have been flea treated and we also ask for proof of your Kennel Club certificate if this applies to you. Puppies that have had only one vaccination must be carried to the event.
     
  2. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    This again? No responsible puppy owner would have anything to do with it.
     
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    JoanneF PetForums VIP

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    I hadn't seen it before but thoughts of bargepoles came to mind. Would people participate in a 'come and cuddle my baby' event? Thought not ...
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Can I have you opinion as to why you think this please

    Many Thanks
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Although puppies, dogs and animals in general are very important in our lives, puppies and babies are not the same thing. Dogs, animals and puppies are already trained to help assist the lives of people such as Guide dogs for the blind etc. as well as some being taken to old peoples homes etc. So i don't see why this can't also benefit dog loving people also, with the permission and presences of their owners. To compare babies and puppies in this situation doesn't quite fit. Have you heard of or visited Cat Cafes? maybe if you knew more about what we are trying to achieve, you opinion would change ? As you said "I haven't seen it before"
     
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    I said I hadn't seen your post or similar before. I have however looked at the link. As a responsible dog owner, my priority is the welfare of my dog. A group of random strangers being encouraged to touch him to relieve their stress compromises that welfare. It is this that I compare to parenthood - if a parent would feel uncomfortable using their child in a similar way, then so should a pet owner.
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Oh I see, well that fair enough. However we do take much care in ensuring that any puppy that isn't enjoying themselves or is showing the earliest signs of stress is removed. Of course the welfare of the puppies is above everything. I've owned animals my entire life so understand a owners worries, but thats also why we intend to attract charities, support them and offer free professional training. (Its free because we foot the bill) we remain very transparent and are currently working with the princes trust so that we getting every aspect right.
     
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    Over whelming puppies like this can cause harm to them in the future...

    It may not be apparent at the time but 6/8 months down the line..have you actually researched this prior to setting this up?

    Do you offer behaviourist training rather than training classes in the future due to an event like this causing problems further down the line...or is your hope that your so called 'training' will have washed this all away.


    I am appalled someone thinks this is a good idea, and even more so done with no thought to dogs welfare
     
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    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    Because it's of no benefit to the puppy. Also, by time a puppy is displaying distress, it's already too late.
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    I'd like to know what makes you think this is done with no thought to dogs welfare?

    We have researched this, we spoke to a behaviourist that had a similar view to yourself, however she also suggested areas we can research further into, and also agreed that this is something that could work, if implemented correctly.

    The training we offer is basic puppy training. As much as its important not of overwhelm a puppy its just as important to make sure they're familiar with new surroundings and people in general. The dogs welfare is our number one concern.
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you for your feedback
     
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    kimthecat PetForums VIP

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    I wouldnt put a puppy through this . However , I expect my dog Pip a JRT would enjoy this . he loves people and attention .
     
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    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    Not the £7 you charge the petters, then?
     
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    Petapuppy PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you for your feedback

    I assume Pip and JRT are adults? Can I ask why you'd feel okay bringing your dogs Pip and JRT but not a puppy.

    (Just for general feedback purposes. Its great to hear peoples concerns, it shows that I haven't demonstrated enough trust through my social media links, which I feel is best taken as constructive criticism).

    Many Thanks
     
  16. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    Of course meeting new people is important for a puppy, but the decision over who my pups meet is mine, and people are carefully chosen who won't scare or overwhelm the pup, and I'm in full control. I'd never subject a puppy to meeting a random assortment of people who'd coughed up their cash and wanted their money's-worth. The entire idea behind the enterprise strikes me as being weird and ethically dubious.
     
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    So a behaviourist thought it wasn't a good idea...and you went a head regardless...

    £7 ahead... local rescue centres are often crying out for help, and after all the hard work of the day most of the time, you can pet a dog or two...those who genuinely need it..those who benefit from it, and guess what volunteering and petting a cute sad dog making it happy is free...but technically it's priceless...no money can pay for it.

    I don't know what's worse, you starting a business to show people how great it is puppies are...so they all jump on the bandwagon of byb and get their own...as I can see that the only motivation for attending these ridiculous events...a try before you buy.. let's have puppy cuddles and see if we like them.

    Just seems wrong on so many levels...
     
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    Your webpage talks of the benefits to humans, encouraging them to come and "pet the stresses and strains of the day away" but mentions nothing of any perceived benefit to the puppy. In fact the only mention of the puppies is to call them "little fluffy bundles of joy" and 'fluffy puppies" (which actually makes me wonder if you have ever actually met a puppy :rolleyes:).

    Pets as Therapy Dogs go through quite a wide ranging temperament assessment (and their handlers are assessed, too) before being petted by strangers ....and yet you are expecting puppies to do this job with no preparation or understanding whatsoever.

    And if you believe that there will be some 'socialisation' benefit to the puppy ...or advertise it as such ...I think perhaps you may need to do a little more research as to what socialisation actually means in developmental terms and also take into account when fear periods may appear and how this may effect the puppies future development if they are being stared at and prodded by total strangers.

    You actually boast that the paying public should be prepared for puppies nipping them (or ripping their clothes) too ....so you intend to let the strangers take the puppies over threshold?

    Temperament tested older dogs ...maybe ....but vulnerable puppies. No. Not a good idea at all.

    J
     
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    Who will you be hiring to supply this free training?
    What qualifications will they have?
    What association do they belong to?
     
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    Didn't some pupil ask a few months ago what gaps existed in the market for doggy things for a school project? My memory fails. Anyhoo; this sounds like something they might have cooked up with lots of enthusiasm but zero knowledge.
     
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