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Pancreatitis in cats

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by jenny armour, Sep 15, 2020.


  1. jenny armour

    jenny armour PetForums VIP

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    My Nfc has been diagnosed with Pancreatitis, not sure if its chronic or acute though. He has the runs and has been sick a few times. At the moment he is eating ID dry as it is the only thing that is helping him, but after a couple of weeks he has had the runs a couple of times. Not sure what to give him, the vet says low cholestreal and high protein. Anyone have any ideas, will be seeing the vet tomorrow for a Vit B shot. JJ is 11 years old
     
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    Hi sorry to hear this. Have you tried Digestive enzymes for cats?
     
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    What is that Treaclesmum?
     
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    I've just bought a product called Maxxidigest cat enzymes from Amazon and started my cat Pudding on it. She is only on day 2 but already showing a big improvement in her bowel movements.

    Have you tried your cat on grain free food as Hills ID doesn't sound very good to me, it contains maize.
     
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    So far I have tried Almo nature sensitive, C|arney, Fine catz, Bozita. he has either not liked it or it hasnt agreed with him. I will speak to the vet tomorrow about the digestive enzymes

     
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    Hi Jenny, poor JJ, it’s not a nice condition. I had a cat with it & you might want to consider joining the Feline Pancreatic Group. The B12 injections were very good for my cat, but then they couldn’t get them and instead gave her Cobalaplex tablets. She had a low dose of steroids too for years and they helped enormously. I think your vet may have said a low fat diet? My cat tried many cat foods and you must introduce the foods very gradually, very slowly, so expect to waste some of the food initially. It’s useful to keep a food and healthy diary. The food my cat did best on was Animonda Vom Feinsten for neutered cats, pure turkey flavour. She also did well on the same make, chicken livers flavour and also the turkey and salmon flavour. She did well on Macs sensitive turkey flavour and Macs turkey and veal, all from Zooplus... there are other suppliers, but are more expensive. The AVF is low in fat, grain free, around 57% meat, 12% protein etc... see attachment for exact info. She was ok on Miamor Ragout Royale in jelly (turkey, veal, not the fish). The right food helped reduce vomiting and it helped too to feed many small meals, as apposed to two or three large meals, including at least one meal over night... think at least one meal every 5 hrs. If she had a bout of diarrhoea, an oz of roast chicken or roast turkey would help, or mackerel fillets, or (initially) white fish. Lots of water should be made available and multiple litter trays and as little stress as possible. I’ve heard of many cats with this condition having pain killers and anti nausea medication, but my vet’s & my specialist vet seemed against this. Ask your vet? My cat got worse once given antibiotics to clear up a bacterial infection, leaving her with liquid diarrhoea, but I presume it helps many other cats, or they wouldn’t prescribe it(?!). I hope your cat finds a good wet diet.
    P.S did you know the Arabic word for chicken is JJ!!
    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/animonda/trays/523945
     

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    Thank you for your info TRiTri. I do have plenty of water around as I have six indoor cats and two dogs, so they are given fresh water everyday. Talking about antibiotics, JJ was prescribed Metrobactin but it made him worse regarding diarrhoea and I had trouble giving him the tablets as they tasted awful and he wouldnt swallow them. I will speak to the vet tomorrow when he goes for his jab. Funnily enough I two more cats with IBS and an intestinal problem, one is a raggie Oliver and the other is another Nfc Nellie, (she is also on Cobalaplex) but they both have different food, although the raggie can eat the Nfcs wet food but not the other way round. I did try one of the MIamor food but JJ didnt like it. I have an account with Zooplus (I must be one of their best customers) so that isnt a problem. There is a few litter trays around but I noticed that since this problem JJ sometimes uses my bathroom floor maybe because the others are using them . As for stress I also noticed that he goes under my bed some of the time probably to get away from the others. Also I have been giving him furball paste as he suffers from alot of furballs. I am hoping if this is successful as he is losing weight, three years ago he was 7 kgs he is now 4.5.
    P.S. I will have to start calling JJ, chicken then lol
     
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    How lovely, I use to have 5 cats at once.
    On the litter tray front, as there are problems, I highly recommend a large (or was it extra large?) Catit hooded litter tray, but take the hood off! It’s huge, so everything stays in the tray and it’s large, so if he needs to use it multiple times (e.g in quick succession, or before you have time to clean it out), there’s plenty of room in it. I use to put puppy pads under the litter trays too. Put it where no cats or people are passing, somewhere “private.”
    What’s a raggie? (My sister’s getting a puppy called Nellie this week!). I think the different Miamor foods vary depending on the name, but the other food makes mine had, had more meat content anyway. To get my dear cat to take meds, I hid them in either Easypill cat putty (from Viovet.. online) or in Greenies pill pockets, best price from a chap on EBay. She thought they were treats. I had a pill popper for backup and as long as I did it quickly, she barely didn’t notice me doing it, but I felt the putty type things were kinder to give her.

    IMO from what I have seen and read, I think stress and IBD are related. Peace and quiet, with her own private get away space, lots of tlc and a good diet, should go a long way. As your dear cat has lost so much weight, you might want to refer him to a specialist? Could he have a bacterial infection? Has he been tested for EPI? It might be worth checking. Has he had any ultrasound? Please let me know how he gets on. Good luck and best wishes to you all.
    Edit: by the way, I think the fur-ball thing is a red herring and a vomiting problem caused by food intolerances. There may well be fur in the vomit, but I suspect there’s a bit more to it than that. Check with your vet. Chillminx could advise you on dealing with food intolerances, if it’s that.
     
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    @jenny armour -

    When the pancreas becomes inflamed, the flow of enzymes into the digestive tract can become disrupted, forcing the enzymes out of the pancreas and into the abdominal area. When this happens the digestive enzymes start breaking down the fat and proteins in other organs, as well as in the pancreas. In effect, the body begins to digest itself.

    Digestive enzymes aren't recommended for treating pancreatitis. (They are often used for treating EPI (Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency).

    Inflammation of the pancreas is not due to nutritional causes in cats. Treatment for pancreatitis is mainly supportive -- fluid therapy, pain relief, medicine to control nausea and vomiting, + possibly antibiotics. Because of the link between intestinal inflammation and pancreatitis, a short course of steroids may be prescribed.

    Keeping the patient hydrated is vital. Pancreatitis in cats is not related to the fat content in their food, so patients do not need to eat low-fat foods. Cats that stop eating are at risk of liver lipidosis, so it is vital your cat keeps eating, any type of of healthy wet food your cat will eat, and even high fat foods are OK.

    The Animonda Vom Feinsten for neutered cats Pure Turkey that TriTri suggested is a good idea, as it is light and palatable and if your cat has any inflammation in her intestines it will be easy for her to digest. And lots of small meals as TriTri also said. :)

    If she likes home cooked food consider some meats (pot-roasted in the oven to conserve nutrients) such as chicken or turkey. And poached white fish. Serve plenty of the cooking juices with the meats to ensure she is kept hydrated.

    I hope this is helpful Jenny :)
     
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    Ragdoll!! Finally worked it out :Hilarious.
     
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    Hi TriTri cant find the Macs chicken livers. JJ was blood tested for just Pancreatitis not EPI, he didnt need that. The vet also recommended Crave sensitive but I didnt like the look of that. He had diarrhoea again this morning so must get some food that will agree with him. What about Carney or Finecatz, have some in the cupboard at the moment>
     
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    Sorry forgot to tell you, have ordered a few of the Animonda Von Feinsten Tuekey hope he likes it and it works xx
     
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    I do too! It’s one my cat Max has also liked and done well on, as well as Tessy. It’s good to find a food that they don’t get bored of and they do well on. Fingers crossed.
     
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    will let you know
     
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    I wish my cats liked AVF but sadly they don't :(

    The Animonda Integra Intestinal turkey flavour looks lovely, it is a coarse pate with jelly, but Pudding only had a very small amount then rejected the rest. Its so hard to find something good for them.
     
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    Yes, the symptoms of EPI are different to those of pancreatitis - different treatment :)
     
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    That’s good. The Animonda Vom Feinsten do the chicken livers flavour, but Zooplus don’t always sell it on its own, without other ones. The turkey hearts is ok to feed occasionally, the poultry and veal I think from memory, too. My cats tried several dozen of the flavours and we ended up with half a dozen they were ok with, and definitely not the senior ones! Macs would be mono sensitive in turkey (or lamb) or Macs turkey & veal... they do a large tin of the turkey and veal for just over a pound, ideal for a multi cat household. I’ve never bought the Carney, sos. Not sure about the Finecatz. Bozita beef was ok for a while, that’s another jelly one. Fresh 5% fat beef mince or turkey mince were good too.
     
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    Dont worry I have plenty of food that four of my cats will eat it if they like it, as long as I can find one that not only JJ like but will help him x
     
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    Which one is AVF? Does Pudding have pancreatitis as well?
     
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    I had a boy with chronic pancreatitis. I kept him stable for years with B12 injections at the beginning, then a low dose of steroids, anti-nausea meds and sub-cut fluids twice a week. He did not have diarrhoea but my vet was always warning me of the danger of triaditis which is a combination of pancreas, liver and small intestine inflammation. Has your boy had any other investigations apart from the fpl blood test?

    I did not have to change my boy's food. He carried on having home-cooked meat and fish always available especially at night with extra treat foods after his meds.

    Some friends have a boy with chronic pancreatitis and he does not have B12 injections but he does have daily cobalaplex and Omeprazole. Again, he does not have special food but one of his owners sometimes gets up twice in the night to ensure he eats regularly. He is 15 now and is doing well.
     
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