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My Mum called me yesterday and said she and my sister were bringing round a present but she would have to tell me what it is before she brought it round so I could be prepared and then she told me it was a puppy! I believe my response was "you ******* what!?"

I had previously told my Mum that we would like to get another dog but hadn't mentioned that we were waiting until Sully was better trained and we had worked on his separation anxiety.

Luckily he appears to of come from a decent breeder (not decent enough to not sell him knowing he was a present though)

He has been vet checked, micro chipped, had his first vaccination.

I grilled my Mum about where he came from and asked for the breeders number.

My OH and I were discussing whether or not we should return him to the breeder and give Mum back the money she paid and then realised we had made a very dumb move letting him meet Sully (our current dog), they are inseparable, Sully was a pain in the butt on his walk yesterday because he wanted to get home to the puppy, they are always playing and tails constantly wagging.

So we now have a new Shih Tzu called Dexter.

I need advice about something, obviously Sully still needs his walks so that means leaving Dexter alone, what's the best way to do this? Crate? Kitchen? How do I best go about it?
 

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If you are on your own so no one can stay with Dexter and you can't carry him on walks then I'd leave him in his crate if he's happy in there. I am facing this with Rudi as hubby goes back to work a few days after we bring him home. If he weighs about the same as Kilo he would be 16kg ish by the time he's able to go for walks himself, so carrying for an hour or so is not an option whilst he cannot - so I am planning to leave him in his crate after a good training session and play so he's tired and with something to gnaw on.

If you do have doubts about having another pup whilst Sully is still a pup I would return him before you get too attached. I'd be furious with my Mum too!!
 

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If you are on your own so no one can stay with Dexter and you can't carry him on walks then I'd leave him in his crate if he's happy in there. I am facing this with Rudi as hubby goes back to work a few days after we bring him home. If he weighs about the same as Kilo he would be 16kg ish by the time he's able to go for walks himself, so carrying for an hour or so is not an option whilst he cannot - so I am planning to leave him in his crate after a good training session and play so he's tired and with something to gnaw on.

If you do have doubts about having another pup whilst Sully is still a pup I would return him before you get too attached. I'd be furious with my Mum too!!
I just wish I was better prepared, I can do this but it just means cramming sessions with every dog training book I can find.

The main thing I'm concerned about is the puppy developing separation anxiety like Sully, I want to stop that before it starts.

I need to socialize him and make sure he doesn't develop separation anxiety, how? Carrying him on walks is no problem so do I take him on every other walk?
 
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Wow that's a pretty big thing! If you're happy, then congrats and I am happy for you :) However, as Dogless said, if you have doubts, and you don't feel you can give both Sully and this pup what they need right now, it's better to make that decision sooner rather than later, for everyone's sake.

Good luck either way :)
 

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I just wish I was better prepared, I can do this but it just means cramming sessions with every dog training book I can find.

The main thing I'm concerned about is the puppy developing separation anxiety like Sully, I want to stop that before it starts.

I need to socialize him and make sure he doesn't develop separation anxiety, how? Carrying him on walks is no problem so do I take him on every other walk?
Do you go to classes? The trainer there will be able to advise I'm sure if you do.

I'd probably not carry him on every single walk as you want to carry on training Sully on walks I assume as he's still a puppy? I'd carry pup on his own 'walks' and go to lots of different places so you can socialise him and then have the advantage of being able to concentrate solely on him. I'm intending to walk Kilo and Rudi separately at least once a day for quite some time once he can walk too just so he learns to bond with me on them and not just Kilo. That's just what I'm intending to do though - not saying that's the definitive answer!!!
 

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Wow that's a pretty big thing! If you're happy, then congrats and I am happy for you :) However, as Dogless said, if you have doubts, and you don't feel you can give both Sully and this pup what they need right now, it's better to make that decision sooner rather than later, for everyone's sake.

Good luck either way :)
I think I'll know by the end of the day whether I am 100% sure I want to keep him or not, I need a plan, I need to prioritise and test the waters.

Sully has lost all interest in my OH and I since getting the puppy and when my OH left for work this morning Sully didn't bat an eye whereas before he would of been upset.

Sully can be left with free roam of the house when we leave because he doesn't chew or mess but the puppy is a definate chewer so obviously has to be confined to the kitchen.

There have been no signs of aggression but is it too soon to leave them alone together?

Here's my idea - Take Sully for his walk and carry the puppy with us, when we get home put Sully and the puppy in the kitchen with toys and beds, leave the house so they can hear that we've left but then come back in after about a minute and continue this whilst extending the time? Oh and record them.
 

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Do you go to classes? The trainer there will be able to advise I'm sure if you do.

I'd probably not carry him on every single walk as you want to carry on training Sully on walks I assume as he's still a puppy? I'd carry pup on his own 'walks' and go to lots of different places so you can socialise him and then have the advantage of being able to concentrate solely on him. I'm intending to walk Kilo and Rudi separately at least once a day for quite some time once he can walk too just so he learns to bond with me on them and not just Kilo. That's just what I'm intending to do though - not saying that's the definitive answer!!!
Training classes are too far away from us (not getting a car until next year).

Luckily my OH can walk the dogs with me so I can concentrate on Sully's training while he carries the pup.
 

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I think I'll know by the end of the day whether I am 100% sure I want to keep him or not, I need a plan, I need to prioritise and test the waters.

Sully has lost all interest in my OH and I since getting the puppy and when my OH left for work this morning Sully didn't bat an eye whereas before he would of been upset.

Sully can be left with free roam of the house when we leave because he doesn't chew or mess but the puppy is a definate chewer so obviously has to be confined to the kitchen.

There have been no signs of aggression but is it too soon to leave them alone together?

Here's my idea - Take Sully for his walk and carry the puppy with us, when we get home put Sully and the puppy in the kitchen with toys and beds, leave the house so they can hear that we've left but then come back in after about a minute and continue this whilst extending the time? Oh and record them.
I'd be wary of leaving them alone unsupervised together so soon - have you got a baby gate so that Sully and pup can see each other but not have access? I'm possibly just completely over - cautious but again I intend to crate Rudi and leave Kilo with free roam.

I'd also want both used to being alone in the house separately and together - same as walks. To my mind if they are used to everything being together you'll have problems later when that might not be possible - one injured, at vet etc.
 

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Training classes are too far away from us (not getting a car until next year).

Luckily my OH can walk the dogs with me so I can concentrate on Sully's training while he carries the pup.
I'd still make an effort to take pup out on his own if you can though - sit outside supermarkets, go into shops, into the vet etc same as I assume you did with Sully.
 

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I'd be wary of leaving them alone unsupervised together so soon - have you got a baby gate so that Sully and pup can see each other but not have access? I'm possibly just completely over - cautious but again I intend to crate Rudi and leave Kilo with free roam.

I'd also want both used to being alone in the house separately and together - same as walks. To my mind if they are used to everything being together you'll have problems later when that might not be possible - one injured, at vet etc.
No baby gate and no time to get one until next week but I want to start all this immediately, would putting the puppy in his crate work the same?
 

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No baby gate and no time to get one until next week but I want to start all this immediately, would putting the puppy in his crate work the same?
I would think so - I'm putting Rudi in his crate whenever he can't be supervised as it's safer for him, the house and Kilo!
 

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My Mum called me yesterday and said she and my sister were bringing round a present but she would have to tell me what it is before she brought it round so I could be prepared and then she told me it was a puppy! I believe my response was "you ******* what!?"

I had previously told my Mum that we would like to get another dog but hadn't mentioned that we were waiting until Sully was better trained and we had worked on his separation anxiety.

Luckily he appears to of come from a decent breeder (not decent enough to not sell him knowing he was a present though)

He has been vet checked, micro chipped, had his first vaccination.

I grilled my Mum about where he came from and asked for the breeders number.

My OH and I were discussing whether or not we should return him to the breeder and give Mum back the money she paid and then realised we had made a very dumb move letting him meet Sully (our current dog), they are inseparable, Sully was a pain in the butt on his walk yesterday because he wanted to get home to the puppy, they are always playing and tails constantly wagging.

So we now have a new Shih Tzu called Dexter.

I need advice about something, obviously Sully still needs his walks so that means leaving Dexter alone, what's the best way to do this? Crate? Kitchen? How do I best go about it?
My goodness, I would be furious if any member of my family did that to me :yikes: and I'm sorry, but that puppy would be going straight back to the breeder but that's me... because I know that I couldn't cope with a puppy right now.

Obviously it's your life and your decision and the longer you have him the harder it would be to let him go, I know.

Am I right in thinking your dog Sully isn't very old himself? You'll have the teenage months to get through yet and believe me, that's a seriously trying time :eek: never mind trying to do it with a younger puppy in tow and all the training and word he'll need.

I'm sorry if I sound really negative :eek: but I'm just trying to be realistic and better the pup goes back now than in a few weeks/months when you realise you can't cope.

I think your mum and sister are very thoughtless... I'm sure their heart was in the right place but a puppy is NOT a suitable "surprise" present for anyone, let alone someone who already has a young dog.
 
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