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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by LotsaDots, Sep 21, 2020.


  1. LotsaDots

    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    Hi I totally forgot about this forum until today! We have Dottie an almost 5 year old terrier who is a total nutcase, but a loveable one. After many conversations and months of deliberating later this week we are picking up an 8 week old JRT x puppy. I am obviously ridiculously excited but also apprehensive!
    Any tips on introducing newbie to Dottie? I have a feeling she won't like this imposter stealing her humans attention!
    I have large crate for him downstairs and a smaller one in our bedroom as well as a stair gate so we can make sure Dottie can have her own space.
    Also thoughts on routine for an 8 week old pup? Do I give him a few days to settle 1st before starting house and crate training or just straight in to it? Dottie came to us at 12 weeks so ive never had a really weeny one!
     
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    JoanneF PetForums VIP

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    I don't have two dog experience so someone else will pick up on that but I'd certainly do house training from day one. Every successful toilet outside is one step closer to a housetrained dog. If you need tips, shout out.

    And, have you seen Emma Judson's guide to crate training?

    https://1drv.ms/w/s!AnuxfGlWS_WrlnfTYtre6bwmpgqW
     
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    Boxer123 PetForums VIP

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    Sox came to collect Loki and met him in the garden of the breeder (neutral time him) I made sure I had stair gates up for when my older boy needed space (which he did a lot )

    Routine for first few days; cry because you have had no sleep, clean poop, drink wine, clean poop ect.

    Then I pulled myself together; wake up cuddle, breakfast, play in garden , toilet outside roughly every hour, sleep, play, Kong , play , chew, sing Loki to sleep.

    Good luck photos are definitely needed.
     
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  4. LotsaDots

    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    Haha @Boxer123 that is starting to ring bells! I'll add wine to my never ending list! I've got 5 days off work then I'm working from home anyway but I will be going back eventually (prob Jan Covid allowing) so don't want him getting used to me being around 24/7
    @JoanneF thank you I'll check out the crate training as for house training last time I was lucky my mum had her from 8-12 weeks and did an amazing job as I was working. This time though I'm at home so no excuse!
    Here's a pic of the little cutie! Name TBC we have a shortlist but need to see what he suits before it's decided.
    IMG-20200917-WA0004.jpg
     
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    JoanneF PetForums VIP

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    I'm not sure if that means you'd like my thoughts on toilet training or not - I don't want to bombard you with stuff you already know.
     
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    Boxer123 PetForums VIP

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    He looks super cute but yes you will need wine! My big boy was most put out by pupper initially but they love each other now.
     
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    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    Sorry, all input greatly appreciated! I'll be putting him out every half hour or so and rewarding every toilet outside, any inside just pick him up and put him out. No punishment. The only conflicting advice I've seen is nighttime. My mum leaves them overnight downstairs (she's experienced in puppy!) however they have company. Dottie sleeps in our room and I don't want to disrupt her routine so I'm going to crate him in our bedroom whilst he's little. Would you get up in the night to take him out? I'm in 2 minds as I won't want to wake a sleeping pup but I don't want to take him out whenever he cries either. I am probably over thinking it!
     
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    JoanneF PetForums VIP

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    I'd have him in the room so you can hear him and take him out to toilet.

    I have to go out right now, but will C/P my standard reply. Shout if you have questions.

    Toilet training happens when two things come together - the ABILITY to hold the toilet, along with the DESIRE to hold it in order to earn the reward for doing so.

    Ideally you want him to not be in a position where he needs to toilet before you have him outdoors, so that every toilet is outside - as far as possible, there will be accidents! So set him up to succeed by taking him out even more than he needs; for example every 45 minutes to an hour and always after sleeping, eating, playing. The time between a puppy realising they need to toilet, and being unable to hold that toilet, is zero. So your aim is to have him outside before he can't help himself. When he toilets outdoors make a huge fuss (never mind the neighbours, act like outdoor toileting is the best thing you have ever seen) and reward him with a high value treat. Do that immediately, don't make him come to you for the treat so he is clear that it's for toileting and not for coming to you. The idea is that he eventually wants to earn the treat enough to hold the toilet until he is outside - once he is physically able to control his toileting obviously. As he is actually performing the toilet you can introduce words he can associate with it (like 'do weewee' and 'busy busy') that later when he is reliably trained you can use these to tell him when you want him to toilet.

    If you take him out and he doesn't toilet after five minutes, bring him in but don't take your eyes off him. Any hint of a toilet inside, scoop him up and get him out fast. If he doesn't try to toilet indoors (great!) take him out a second time and repeat until you do get outside toilets. You need the outside toilet to happen SO that you can reward SO that he learns.

    If he has an accident inside don't react at all. If you get annoyed he may learn to fear your reaction and avoid you if he needs to toilet (by going off and toileting out of sight) - the opposite of what you want. Dogs cant make the distinction between you being annoyed at him TOILETING, as opposed to toileting INDOORS. Take a rolled up newspaper and hit yourself over the head for not having taken him outside in time. Not when he is there though in case you scare him. Then clean the area with an enzymatic cleaner to remove any trace of smell that might attract him back to the spot.

    Indoors if you see him circling or scratching the floor, that can sometimes precede toileting so get him out fast.

    Overnight he is unlikely to be able to control his toilet as his little bladder and bowel are underdeveloped and not strong enough to hold all night so set your alarm to take him out at least once if not twice during the night.

    I really don't like puppy pads - they give mixed messages about whether it's ok to toilet indoors and confuse the puppy.
     
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  9. McKenzie

    McKenzie PetForums VIP

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    Congrats on your new puppy!

    My bossy bitch of a terrier hated puppies, and she was 6 when I got my second dog. It took about 24 hours for her to absolutely adore him. So you never do know!
     
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    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    @JoanneF fab thank you, that pretty much cements what I thought. Although I am aware it won't all be plain sailing!
    @McKenzie haha Bossy bitch of a terrier is exactly how I would describe Dottie. She is most definitely queen Bee in this house! Glad your 2 are friends it is good to hear success stories!
     
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    My standard poodle hated my miniature poodle puppy. Unfortunately for her the feeling was not reciprocated and puppy had not a clue about safety and good manners. In fact she grabbed the snarly lip and played tuggy with it. Day 2 puppy walked underneath old dog and set off a hormonal reaction when she touched her undercarriage. Old dog instantly regurgitated food for the pup and then looked after and picked her up by her scruff if she wandered too far away. So you never know what will happen!
     
  12. LotsaDots

    LotsaDots PetForums Senior

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    Wow! I've never heard that happen before how interesting. Dottie can get a bit jealous she is never nasty or snappy but will run to her toy/chew when the cat walks in the room.. He obviously has zero interest in her manky pigs ear!
    She is an independent little madam though, definitely not a lap dog and likes her own space so I'm hoping as long as her routine doesn't change too much and we make sure she's not left out (people have to greet her aswell as cuddle the pup) then hopefully all will be harmonious..
     
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