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New puppy - visitors advice needed!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by RetrieverPuppy321, Sep 10, 2019.


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Should I allow two adult friends to visit my new puppy on his second day?

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  1. RetrieverPuppy321

    RetrieverPuppy321 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi there

    My partner and I are having some debate about how soon to wait before having visitors over once we get our 8 week old puppy.

    My partner has read that you shouldn’t have anyone over for at least 48 hours as this could distress the new dog. However, I’d like two adult friends (very sensible, calm individuals) to see our puppy the day after we get them. This would be at home for around an hour.

    While I fully understand that overwhelming a new puppy with too many visitors (particularly young excitable children) could be overwhelming for it in early days, would a few calm adults really cause distress and long term damage?

    Any advice or thoughts gratefully received.

    Many thanks
     
  2. Sarah H

    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    Why no visitors for 48hrs? OK if it's an older rescue then yes I'd suggest waiting a week before you have visitors, but a new pup? Should be fine. Just keep interactions calm and friendly. Lots of people want to show off their new pup and it's absolutely fine, just watch for pup getting too excited and have somewhere to pop them if they need some rest. And make sure you aren't distracted by your friends ans are watching pup in case they need to toilet so you can grab them and go outside. Puppies don't have control over their bladders so any excitement will probably mean they will need to toilet very soon afterwards!
     
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    It depends on the puppy, but if your pup is fairly confident then personally I don't see any issues with having a couple of sensible adults in to see it. A more shy or anxious puppy might find it harder, but I don't see that it would be a problem for most pups, especially if only for an hour. However, I will say that when we first had our pup she mostly slept for the first few days, including when people had come over to see her so you might get something similar. Make sure she is able to rest when she wants to and remember you will need to take her outside at regular intervals to go to the toilet - it's easy to forget to do this when you are distracted with guests.
     
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  4. RetrieverPuppy321

    RetrieverPuppy321 PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you for your reply! So they found a few websites (Pets4Homes) that mentioned waiting at least 48 hours and ideally my partner wants to wait a full week. I’m desperate to find a professional body (like RSPCA) which states it’s ‘okay’ within reason, as they are being quite stubborn about this and saying their research is sound.
     
  5. Lurcherlad

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    Tbh when my friend got a new pup I stayed away for the first week to let the pup settle.

    The pup’s welfare came before my own eagerness to see it, frankly.

    So many changes and new things. Better to err on the side of caution imo.

    Eta: this pup lived in a house with 5 people and a large extended family, so me waiting a week did not disadvantage his socialisation ;)
     
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    I think as people have already said, the key is how you introduce puppy by not overwhelming him or her.

    As already been said is puppy is probably sleeping, so you wouldn't disturb the sleeping puppy.

    Am not a fan of picking dogs up anyway, so if you let puppy approach if they want to. Most likely a well rounded golden if awake will want to say hello, but also that can be with teeth so visitors must be aware this is normal.

    Keep everything low key.

    Your puppy should at the very least be exploring the outside of his or her home in the first week, at the very least carried in your arms and yes I was quite protective over mine to noisy excitable kids I didn't know and random adults. So I don't get why you would stop people you know and trust visit you
     
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    https://www.bluecross.org.uk/pet-advice/socialising-your-puppy


    As a rule of thumb, your pup needs to meet 100 people by 12 wks of age so i wouldnt be wasting a day, let alone a week!

    The opportunity to do this when your pup will be receptive to all kinds of people is short - the window closes at 12wks for dog to people socialisation and by 16wks for dog to dog.

    So if you want a nice, confident, bomb proof pup, you need to take every opportunity to introduce your pup to lots of positive encounters.

    Have fun!
     
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    I’m with everybody else on this.

    If you have a well reared, normal inquisitive puppy then there’s no harm in having a visitor or two if they’re sensible people who will be guided by how the pup behaves towards them.

    As far as waiting for a week goes; that’s a long time in the life of a small puppy who’s programmed to learn rapidly, and at this age it’s fairly important for your pup to meet all sorts of shapes, sizes, types of people (although not all at once), and also to learn to take it for granted that there will be people coming and going, and that’s ‘normal’.
     
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    100 people by the age of twelve weeks?

    That's ridiculous in my opinion.

    I would say certainly have a few visitors if that is what you want, don't overthink it, but why on earth would you have a hundred people to your home?
     
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    I think that's changed about meeting 100 people or having puppy parties where you pass a puppy around .
    Its not the amount of people the pup has to meet but more to do with types and variety. , Children , older people , different races , men with beards , people in uniform etc.

    I think it depends on each individual circumstance, Why not wait to see how the pup is and then make a choice.
     
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    If you can link in the latest research, i would be really interested to read it @kimthecat.

    I am aware of a large Canadian study done 2017 focusing on the first 14weeks of life and comparing pups that had not attended puppy class and had only met about 10 people to those that had attended classes. Though they also looked at exposure to environmental sounds as well in the cohort that went to puppy class - they were obvs the more confident pups.

    So, although i am aware there is other research going on, i am not aware that there is research directly oposing Ian Dunbar's original work.

    I found it easy to get the 100 in for each of my pups and of course a good breeder will start the process. And - apart from this carpet tile fear of Tilly's, i have 2 dogs that are pretty bomb proof so it does work.

    Agree with you about the variety of people being important:)
     
  12. Rafa

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    Introducing a young pup to 100 people would be madness, IMO, regardless of which 'expert' advised it.

    Whenever I have had a pup, (and there have been a fair few), my household has functioned as normal and my pups could involve themselves so far as they wanted.

    I have never ended up with a dog having issues with anxiety or people.

    As I say, why overthink it?

    Dogs are simple creatures - we can learn from them.
     
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  13. kimthecat

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    I;m not suggesting that pups don't go to puppy classes at the vets . Well run ones area good idea .
    I meant Puppy parties where you have a load of people come to your house and pass the puppy around can end up have the opposite affect on some pups with nervous dispositions .
    There's a huge difference between 10 and 100 .

    What was his original research that said at least a hundred people ?

    Did the Canadian study agree it had to be a minimum of 100?
     
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    It's the extrapolate 100 people.. When I read that it never said the puppy had to meet. Or rather that's how I took it that the puppy can observe and should at their own pace. So 100 people could be done, even if it was the same people you bumped in to on a walk around observing a few a day say 10 on a little wander. Dog learns that they share the space with others...
     
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    No pup 'needs' to meet 100 people in a few weeks.
     
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    Its nurture and nature , if your pup is genetically disposed to "shyness " then its not very likely its going to be as out going and confident as a more bolder pup.
     
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    It’ll be different for each pup and honestly the best thing you can do is to learn your dogs body language and make all encounters positive and with the option to retreat to a safe place.
     
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    Why are you "desperate"?. Why does this matter so much to you?

    My personal preference would be to have a few days of peace and quiet and get to know my puppy and let my puppy adjust to the home and new people, just the pup and people who live in the home.

    I don't understand why you are making such a big deal about it.
     
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  19. RetrieverPuppy321

    RetrieverPuppy321 PetForums Newbie

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    Hmm, so I guess I actually DON’T think it’s a big deal, however my partner got really angry and is accusing me of not taking the welfare of the dog into account - which obviously I find particularly offensive and hurtful. It’s also frustrating me as up to this point, I have done all of the upfront work: researching and finding suitable breeder; liasing with them; contacting a vet around registration and vaccines etc; researching items to buy e.g crates, play pens; toys, food, car transport and buying everything; researching and arranging doggy daycare (with initial home visit).

    So I guess this is why I feel so irritated that I’ve been told that inviting a few friends over the following day for a chilled visit is completely out of order.
     
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    In my time I've had numerous pups, as well as older rescue dogs.
    With a rescue, I would most definitely give them a good week just settling in before I introduced them to anyone who doesn't live in the home.
    With pups however I can see no reason why you shouldn't have a couple of sensible, calm adult friends over. Just make sure they don't overwhelm pup with lots of cuddling and stroking and kissing that lovely little soft squidgy puppy nose, smelling that lovely sweet puppy smell ( sigh) Ahem.. :D

    Seriously though, allow the pup to approach them and just try to keep things calm and low key.
    Your pup needs to get used to you and your partner having friends round, you may as well start as you mean to go on.

    Allow pup to set the pace, if he's tired and just wants to settle down and nap, then everyone leaves him alone, if he's happy to interact thats fine, just don't allow him to get overexcited. If however he appears to be anxious, unsure and /or scared then I would be inclined personally to stop the visit pop pup away to a quiet place and ask your friends to come back another time and try again. If they are really your friends they will want what's best for your puppy too and won't be offended.
    And do watch closely for those tell tale signs that he needs to go to the toilet.
     
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