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Discussion in 'Cat Training and Behaviour' started by Anicka, Jul 21, 2018.


  1. Anicka

    Anicka PetForums Newbie

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    Hey guys I don’t know where to start. I have a new cat well she started to come to our garden so I took her to the vet and she didn’t have a chip or anything so I decided to keep her. The vet said she is pregnant but she was only 8 months old so she recommended to get her spayed. She’s been in my house for about a month now. I love her she is sweet but what literally makes me mad is her behaviour most of the day i mean from the time that she wake me up till the end of the day she bites me and scratch me and it’s really painful because she looks angry when she does it. Sometimes we just lie in the bed or during the night when my foot or hand pop out of the duvet she will jump on it and attack me. Or she will do it anytime during the day. Can’t pet her or anything just sometimes when she feels like it maybe for 10 sec and then bite. It really get on my nerves because she have everything. She wake me up early morning 4 am I give her food and I go back to bed in the meantime she will attack me like 10 times. I feel like is getting worst now. Also on the end of the day she just won’t go inside no matter what I do. On the beginning Treats works for her now nothing but I always manage somehow to do it. But tonight I just got fed up I left her outside I spend hour trying to get her in. I never had a cat before I had dogs and lots of other pets but I seriously don’t understand my bloody cat and it drives me crazy. Sorry for long post but hope someone cat help. Anyway she is about 8 months old, spayed she had her vaccinations and she is the only animal in the house. Thank Youuu
     
  2. chillminx

    chillminx PetForums VIP

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    Hello @Anicka and welcome. :)

    I am rather confused by your description of your cat. You say she is "sweet" but then you go on to say that her behaviour makes you "mad" most of the day because she bites and scratches you, and seems angry. :confused:

    If she seems angry a lot of the time, then there is a reason for it. She could be getting overstimulated from too much attention, or she is unwell, or her hormone levels are still high.

    How long ago did you have her spayed? Hormones can make a female cat's behaviour erratic and it can take several months after spaying for hormone levels to fall.

    At 8 months old she is still only a kitten, and as she was a stray you don't know her history. She could have been separated from her mother and siblings too young and not been well socialised by her mum. You will have to take on the role of substitute mum to her and patiently teach her how to play without biting and scratching.

    So a kitten her age needs lots of playtime with her human companion - several hours a day, every single day, divided into periods of about 40 minutes a time.

    Buy plenty of toys (or make some) that you play with her interactively, e.g. fishing rod toys such as Da Bird or similar, to get her leaping about, jumping, to use up energy. Ping pong balls for you to throw for her to chase; balls of screwed up baking foil, even a length of string you pull along the ground. Don't leave the rod toys or the string with her, always put them away safely after your play session, in case she eats them and harms herself.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat-Toy-Fe...id=1532213764&sr=1-3&keywords=da+bird+cat+toy

    Also, you need some kick toys of which you will give one to her whenever she bites you. The kick toy will be a substitute for your hand, arm or foot. Have several of these toys so there is one near at hand around your home whenever you need it.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/KONG-Kicke...213729&sr=8-1&keywords=kong+kickeroo+cat+toys

    (if you aren't in the UK, you can buy these toys from amazon.com)

    When she bites you, don't snatch away your hand/arm/foot. Keep still, and squeal "ouch' quite loudly. This should make her stop and let go of you. Then you slowly move away from her. If she seems angry then ignore her and you leave the room. Please do not touch her if she is angry, you will make her more angry and likely to attack you. She needs time on her own to calm down, but not to be shut out. You remove yourself to another room and close your door.

    Never let her play with your hands, and don't stroke her tummy if she rolls over on her back. Encourage her to play with you with the arms length toys.

    If she is not good at coming back when you call her, this may be because she was a stray and was used to being outdoors a lot. Consider having a microchip cat flap fitted to your door or outer wall, so she can come and go as she pleases in the daytime, and then at night set it so that she cannot get out again once she brings herself indoors for her supper.

    Don't allow her out late in the evening on a full tummy. She is more likely to come when you call her if she is hungry and looking forward to a tasty wet food supper.

    If she is disturbing your sleep all night, you have a choice. Either ignore her completely by pretending to be asleep. Or shut her out of your bedroom, and in to a room of her own every night - so there are two closed doors between you. Leave her some wet food overnight in an autofeeder, timed to open around dawn (say 4 am) and then she will eat the food and sleep until you get up to give her breakfast.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cat-Mate-C...15168&sr=1-4&keywords=cat+mate+c20+pet+feeder

    Make sure you are feeding her enough. At her age she needs between 350 grams and 450 grams of wet food a day, divided into 4 meals. She has a lot of growing to do, so let her eat as much wet food as she wants (but ration the dry food to a small portion a day, as it is not as good for her as wet food). She needs plenty of meat protein, so choose a good quality wet food without grains or added sugars.

    Please let us know how things go, when you have made changes, as I've suggested. :)
     
  3. Anicka

    Anicka PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you so so much. Well I said she is sweet because she has her moments when she is actually really sweet and calm. And she was spayed just like two weeks ago I really hope is just the hormones then. And I don’t think she is overstimulated when I see that she is angry or she is in the hunting mood I just leave her alone I dont go all day long trying to pet her or something I try to do it only when she ask for it or when she is in her sweet mood but that can change in a sec. or I go to another room but she just run after me and jump on my feet. Sometimes I manage to run in another room and close the door I will stay there for half n hour or so but she will wait there for me and jump on me. She look like she is playing most of the time when she does it. I bought her so many toys but she don’t really care about them. When we play with the fishing rod toys she is not concentrating on toy but my hand and if she can’t reach my hand she just walk away and don’t want to play at all. The vet check her health before she way spayed and she is healthy. And she eats a lot I only feed her with wet food she loves it. And the cat flap I live in rented house and my landlord don’t allow me to install one. So I always have to call her back at night. Anyway I woke up at 1am and she was already waiting at the door so I let her in. And there is one more thing. She don’t want to use the litter at all. Only when is empty. The first clumping litter I bought was the fragranced one. She didn’t go in the for 3 days every time she needed to go to the toilet she went in the shower and she did it in there. So I took the clumping litter out and as soon as I took it out she went in the to have a pee. So I went to the store and bought different type. Same story. Then I went to the store again bought different type AGAIN!!! Same story. And etc.... so I ended up having 5 bags on different clumping litter and she likes none of them. She only go to the tray when is empty or she goes to the shower. When I got her in first time she always used my tomatoe plant as a toilet I had to remove it and I put her litter tray at exact spot. She never had accident on the carpet or anywhere. She know she have to use the litter because I leave it empty now for a week and she always go in there or the shower. But the smell is horrendous and zo have to give a really good scrub every time she use it. Any suggestions which clumping litter would definitely work for her? Thank you so much Anna
     
  4. chillminx

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    Hi Anna,

    Cats (and kittens) can get into a habit of certain behaviour in their litter trays, and it can need a lot of patience, calmness and determination to get them to change their behaviour. It is very possible the kitten has never seen cat litter before. Perhaps in her previous home she was given only a bare litter tray or maybe one lined with newspaper.

    If you are in the UK I recommend either Worlds Best cat litter or Cats Best Oko Plus. WB is made of crushed corn kernels and it acts like a magnet to most cats. Cats Best Oko Plus is made of shredded fir tree. Neither of these is scented and both clump well and hide smells efficiently. (please do not buy fragranced litter, a litter tray needs to smell of the cat).

    You mentioned she used your tomato plant for a toilet and I assume it is planted in soil or potting compost. So maybe she would be happier using ordinary garden soil in her litter tray - at least to start with. You could very gradually add a bit of litter to it, a bit more and a bit more.

    If you try the soil and she doesn't like it, then I recommend you start from the beginning and train her gradually to use litter. She needs 2 litter trays, in different parts of the house. Start by putting a puppy training pad in both litter trays. As soon as the pad is used, remove it and replace it with a fresh one. If you leave a dirty one there it will smell and she may refuse to use the tray .

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ellie-Bo-A...532263525&sr=1-5&keywords=puppy+training+pads

    After a few weeks of her using the puppy pads, add a small amount of litter to the trays on top of the puppy pads (a couple of tablespoonfuls of litter). Use one of the litters I recommended (if you can buy it in your country).

    After a few more weeks add a bit more litter. If at any point she goes back to using the shower for a toilet, then remove the litter from the trays and go back to using puppy pads on their own. Then work forward again, but this time go even slower with introducing the litter to the tray, if necessary taking a few months over it. Slowly and patiently is likely to be the answer. :)

    It sounds as though her previous owner taught her that human hands are playthings. Some irresponsible people do this because they think it is amusing when a tiny kitten attacks their hands. Then it is not funny when the kitten gets bigger and the claws really hurt.

    I would buy yourself some thorn-proof gardening gloves you can put on for now when you play with her, so if she does attack your hands you can just squeal, keep still and it won't hurt you. She will lose interest in your hands if she sees you don't pull away. She thinks you are playing when you pull your hand away from her. Then just keep trying with the toys, to get her interest. She may prefer a piece of string to a fishing rod toy.

    Some kittens are attracted to attack bare feet, so don't walk around the house with bare feet, wear slippers.
     
    #4 chillminx, Jul 22, 2018
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  5. Anicka

    Anicka PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you so so much I am really grateful for your help ❤️ I will try to train her to use the litter as you said and also try to keep playing with the toys Thank you again I really appreciate that :)
     
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