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Discussion in 'Animal Jobs & Working with Animals' started by Kaydence, Jun 29, 2019.


  1. Kaydence

    Kaydence PetForums Newbie

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    I'm 14 and for the longest time I've studied and worked with k9 officers and dogs and all sorts of professional working dogs. For the longest time I've wanted a puppy of my own to train and compete in french ring sports in the future and to practice pursuing the work of a tactical dog trainer. My dad knows this, and told me about an "amazing" dutch shepherd malinois mix. Being my favourite breeds I was ecstatic to be getting the puppy. He asked to pay for a portion of the pup and I spent all of the money that I had at the time to contribute to buying this puppy. We went and picked up the puppy and i already could tell something was off. The dog stood completely still and just looked around, and when picking it up it just froze up and hung in my arms. Hes supposed to be 10 weeks old yet he was thin and rat looking and his ears weren't erect yet. He looked like an underweight patterdale terrier. I just assumed that the dog was tired or something. We got home and the dog did not act at all like a malinois. It was skittish and showed no interest at all in treats or toys, which I was completely disappointed by because I was planning on protection training and to start they need to be very toy motivated. The dog had no idea what a leash was a ran from it as I tried walking it outside. Over the night. It violently thrashed and squirmed in its crate attacking the bars. My family (who know nothing about dogs or dog training other than knowing how to pet a dog) said "dogs cant be crate trained that's how dogs become aggressive" and told me to take him out. He then proceeded to run around the house having accidents everywhere and barking at imaginary shapes on the floor. I was up all night following him around trying to keep him contained but when I'd get too close hed eaither run with his tail between his legs or turn around and charge me. I know how to treat dogs but my family does not and they are completely ignoring me when I tell them what they can and cant do to a working dog. They want a family dog, which I understand, but this is not a family dog. It is a working dog. But this morning when I tried to get the puppy to play or learn things like sit and his name, he had no interest in the food and would barely even try to learn anything. Does anyone have any tips? Did I just spend all my money on a horrible untrainable dog? Or is there something wrong with the dog? Or is he not even a malinois and will I be unable to accomplish my goal?
     
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    Oh dear @Kaydence there's a lot to unpack here.
    One, welcome :)
    Two, I'm going to ask a mod to move your post to dog chat where you will get more responses. I think @StormyThai and @LinznMilly are online right now.
    Three, it's going to take me a bit longer to reply to the rest of your post so I'll save that for later. But short version, if you can return this pup to the breeder, please do, and probably best to wait until you're on your own, and a little older to own your own dog, especially since your family is not on board.
     
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    Kaydence PetForums Newbie

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    I already have a rescue dog of my own but she's older and I'm unable to train her, my family thinks the dog is the best dog ever and they think that training isn't important because hes a family dog but I dont think they realize that malnois are built for jobs and without one he could possibly be a danger. He already shows signs of aggression. I was debating telling the breeder I couldn't take him but he was the last puppy and they were moving and had to get rid of all their dogs because they couldn't take them with. And I dont think that my family would allow me to rehome him. I'm kinda stuck.
     
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    Assuming this is not a wind up which it potentially is.......

    The long story short is give the puppy back to the breeder. It's easier to rehome/move on a puppy than it is a 1 year old hyperactive, destructive, probably fearful/reactive adolescent working type Shepherd with no training. Homes for those dogs aren't easy to find.
     
  5. Kaydence

    Kaydence PetForums Newbie

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    I would love to find him a new home except my family is attached to him and would never allow me too. And they expect me to train him because they have doubts in my ability and want me to prove to them I can do it. But this dog is a bit hard. Mostly what I'm looking for is advice on how I should possibly approach training and socializing with him. Or if it's even possible?
     
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    Not being funny but how can they be "attached" to him already if you've presumably only had him for a matter of days? I find it a bit odd that your dad who apparently knows nothing about dogs knew what a Malinois and a Dutch Shepherd was. My parents have had dogs their entire lives, but aren't what I would call 'dog savvy' (like 98% of dog owners). and would not have a clue what a Malinois or Dutch Shepherd was.
     
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    You've been scammed by the breeder if you can't return him. I doubt he's good lines nor has the correct temperament for protection training.
    Since you've worked with K9 officers and professional working dogs, get a hold of one of those trainers and see if they can help you rehome this dog. You don't have the experience or knowledge needed to raise this dog. It's an accident waiting to happen I'm afraid.
     
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    @Kaydence: Assuming this is a genuine post from a 14-year-old, I'd say you need professional help.
     
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    If this is a genuine post....

    Please excuse me sounding harsh, but from your post, you have neither the experience or the aptitude to raise and train a Mal.

    I doubt any 14 year old would qualify, despite the huge experience you obviously think you have, and the unreasonable expectations that you have/had of a 10 week old puppy only serves to underline this.
     
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    Kaydence PetForums Newbie

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    I'd like to thank everyone for the replys and the tips. We do believe that the we've been scammed a bit and highly doubt that the dog is good quality and when we took him out a bit for socialization and quite a few people that we talked to and met have all noticed unusual behavior and were suspecting that he may have been mistreated at some point. We also believe that the breeders lived about giving them the deworming as he is very skinny and may possibly have worms. I've contacted a police officer that I've known for a while and he is going to talk to a coworker of his who trains the police dogs to see if he has any tips. We dont believe that he is a Malinois as he has none of the characteristics of a malinois other than having a resemblance to them. I also know quite a few dog trainers that work with shelter dogs. I am planning on contacting them as well for the socialization classes. I'm going to try my best with this puppy as it seems like it has had a rough start in life. I'm going to try my best. And In the future I definitely plan to not accept a dog from someone who is uneducated in breeds.
     
  11. Gemma47292

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    Hi I'm 18, studying to be a dog trainer I have a puppy to of 8 weeks if you live close to me maybe we could get to know each other and take them out together? Dog walks so they play and socialising together?
     
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    I would if nothing else join a good reward-based dog training club, get your dog to the vets for a full vet check, vaccines, worming and registered with a good puppy class.

    I agree with others a Mal is a very bad fit for you at this stage.

    I'm 54 had dog all my life and I'm not fit to own a Mal, very few of us are
     
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