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Discussion in 'Dog Grooming' started by Lauren5159, Aug 22, 2013.


  1. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    Hi guys,

    I really, really want to do something to tidy up Skip's face... I just don't know what.

    I've visited a few groomers but around my area, there doesn't seem to be anyone who is good at handstripping... Most of them have advised taking clippers to his face and body, which I don't want. Others have advised cutting the hair on his body (as they admitted handstripping wasn't their strong point) and again, clipping his face to tidy it up...

    To be honest, I haven't visited a grooming salon where I got a good vibe or a groomer 'got me'... I'm not strict, I just want his body handstripped and his scruffy face tidied up.

    So, to help explain myself better, I'm wondering if anyone can give me some pointers on what I need to tell them... I don't think I'm speaking 'groomer' language when I visit and may be confusing them lol...

    Here's some pictures of Skip to emphasise my point...

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    The face (looking tidier than usual) lol:
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    His scruffiness today:
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    Any help would be greatly appreciated :) What would you guys do?
     
  2. lisa0307

    lisa0307 PetForums VIP

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    I would give him a big kiss and tell him he looks gorgeous just as he is...totally beautiful x :001_wub:
     
  3. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    Lol, thank you Lisa :)

    Sometimes I just think he needs a bit if a tidy... He gets everything stuck in his beard and I'm constantly moving his hair away from his eyes... I do love my little scruff bug though :)
     
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    pearltheplank PetForums VIP

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    There aren't many groomers these days that will handstrip to be honest

    It might be a case of phoning and asking and being prepared to travel further than you would like. Alternatively, as he's your pet, have a go yourself! It really isn't hard, not sure why groomers have a prob with it tbh. If his coat is ready to e stripped, it will pull very easily. Take a few hairs and gently pull, if they come out then he's ready if you have to tug then he's not
     
  5. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    I've tried to do it myself and his hairs do come out easily but I'm just not sure if I'm doing it right :confused:

    I've watched numerous YouTube videos and read up on it but I'm still not sure... Plus, it would probably take my four days lol. I'm rather slow at it :)

    I think calling is a good idea. I'd love to find just ONE groomer who can handstrip to a decent standard. You'd think I was asking too much lol.
     
  6. BoredomBusters

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    I started handstripping my broken coated terrier a couple of months ago. I got a friend to show me rolling his coat, which is where you lift up a small patch of fur and pull the stragglers (in the direction of the coat). I did move on to stripping with a comb/knife as it was so slow, but some advice from a groomer recommended hair will grow back slower if I stick to rolling.

    I do about 15/20 mins every few evenings, cuddled on my lap. I'm undecided if I will let it grow back over winter - he looked awful around his back end! But it will give him some weather proofing.
     
  7. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    Yeah I also thought about leaving it over winter... I'll buy a stripping knife in time for spring :)

    The knives are so confusing though... There are so many different types. Coarse to fine and some even have numbers!

    Looks like I'll be leaving his coat over the winter lol, until I can learn a bit more :)

    Thanks for all your help x
     
  8. BoredomBusters

    BoredomBusters PetForums VIP

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    I got the same one my friend got, a blue miki. I 'blunted' it with rope a bit, and was reading this website - - Terrierman's Daily Dose -

    Most of the videos I saw were about BTs, nothing for Patterdales!
     
  9. Dzozefinka

    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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    It looks like it gets harder and harder to find the right groomer nowadays.. I really do not understand why groomers so do not like to handstrip? i keep, breed and show border terriers and also have a grooming business, some people travel 40-60 minutes to get here as i am one of two or three groomers in the area, who will actually handstrip and wont take clippers or scissors...

    From the pictures it looks like your dog just needs a little tidy up really. I would do it, but not sure you'll travel to central England from Scotland LOL.. So just have a go yourself! Most of our border owners do it themselves.. Take your time, it might be a bit slow first time, but you'll get there...
     
  10. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    Thanks!

    Believe me, the struggle I'm having, I might just travel to you lol.

    I'll going to give it a go... His coat isn't too bad but in the pictures, you can't really see it... He has white hairs growing over his brown patches and it is annoying more than anything lol. He's also started to she'd, which I read is due to his coat needing stripped.

    I fully intend to do a grooming course next year and I'm definitely going to specialise in handstripping... It's CRAZY trying to find a decent groomer who knows how to strip a coat. So annoying!

    Thanks for all your help guys, I'm going to keep looking for groomers, start doing it myself and Dzozefinka, I'll probably be seeing you soon lol.
     
  11. Dzozefinka

    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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    lol! i am going to dog show in Durham on 5th of October lol if you wont find anything by then - you are more than welcome to come see me there :)
     
  12. Dzozefinka

    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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    Where abouts are you? i'll try find a groomer for you! x
     
  13. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    I'm in the Glasgow area :)

    Thanks so much! I appreciate all your help x
     
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    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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  15. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    Do you know? Scotgroom is who I want to do my grooming training through... I have no idea why I never thought of them before lol... I might actually just do their 'day course' to start with and take Skip so they can teach me how to strip his coat properly :)

    Thank you... I can't believe I never thought of that :laugh:
     
  16. Hardwick Hounds

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    Generally, it's because they don't know how. Some choose not to do it because it is time consuming so effectively more expensive than clipping and not all owners are prepared to pay the difference. It can cause injuries like carpal tunnel and repetitive strain injury, too, so when your hands and wrists are your business and required for serious scissoring, you might not want to offer it as a service.
    I did once book myself 3 border terrier hand strips in in one day! I completely over looked it but will never do it again lol.

    I will always offer hand stripping though because it is better for the coat. I generally manage my bookings very well :p and don't book a st schnauzer hand strip before a st poodle continental trim lol. and I charge a little bit more than the average price for a clip.
     
  17. Dzozefinka

    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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    Oh well... This happens sometimes LOL

    Good luck with that, i am sure you'll get there!

    ps.. i love handstripping, some days i only have h/strips and never had any problems.. oh BT's are my fav as you could notice lol
     
  18. Lauren5159

    Lauren5159 Lover of Terriers, loser of the plot.

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    I am one of those few owners who will pay as much as I need to for a decent groom. I can see what you're saying though... I did try it before, and my wrist was in agony after 15 minutes lol... Skip loves having it done :) He stands like a champ, I just worry that I'm not doing it properly.

    If there's one thing I don't like, it's seeing a coat that has been clipped instead of stripped... I hate the way it looks.

    That's why I so desperately want Skip's done :)
     
  19. Dzozefinka

    Dzozefinka Pet Forums Junior Member

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    Shouldn't be any harm to wrist if hand strip properly! ;)
     
  20. Hardwick Hounds

    Hardwick Hounds PetForums Senior

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    Any action that is repeated over and over for a length of time can cause injury or strain or discomfort. Also, sitting or standing in the same position for a few hours will cause discomfort and aches. There are a lot of potential health problems when you are a groomer and you need to look after yourself.
     
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