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Nearly rang the BBC today

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by steveshanks, Aug 10, 2018.


  1. steveshanks

    steveshanks PetForums VIP

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    Radio 2 had a chat show about department stores closing and Internet shopping (All from this House of Frasier thing) and some Numpty comes on and says they are closing because we are all to lazy to go shopping and would rather sit in our pajamas on-line shopping than go to a shop, AND if we went shopping we'd be fitter and slimmer. I mean the guy made it out like we really were assholes. Oh and another guy says we should pay more to shop on-line.
    I have never rang a TV or radio show before but really wanted to tell this bloke what i thought.....AND i am so sick to death of shows moaning about shops closing, its called economic evolution, things change, 400 years ago (might have that wrong) we had no shops and we bartered!
    My other gripe is folks who buy the odd bottle of milk locally, then shop at Asda, or put £5 of petrol in to drive to Asda pumps THEN complain when a local shop closes, we have 2 garages in my town, we used to have 5, till Asda opened there pumps, now we can blame Asda but nobody forces people to use them.
    Disclaimer: We only have one supermarket with petrol (Asda) within 25 miles of town
     
  2. Happy Paws

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    But there is lot of truth in that, it's so easy to shop on-line, I do shop on-line as it's easier for me than to go into town, but I feel guilty about it. Everything we buy on-line it's another nail in the high streets coffin.
     
  3. Zaros

    Zaros Pet Forums, most wanted.

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    Although I've only been guilty of internet shopping once, I absolutely detest the concept. I want to see what I'm actually getting before I hand over my hard earned.
    If it's an item of clothing, I want to see that it fits me in all the right places, and fits me comfortably. Sizes vary so much between manufacturers and something that's of medium fit by Joe Blogg's standard, is a small by Jack Sh1t's. I don't want the inconvenience of having to return the purchase and wait for however long for a replacement.

    As for today's garages or service stations, I can't remember the last time I walked into one and saw a case of spark plugs. Rows of fan or timing belts. A rack of Oil and air filters. A vast assortment of bulbs and fuses, relays, solenoids batteries, alternators etc, etc, etc

    You can buy all the sh1t to keep it looking good, shampoos, waxes, anti static cloths, cockpit shine (Bright and Matt) Bug off, Wheel bright, Tyre shine, but absolutely sod all to keep it running good.
    Still, you can always buy a bottle of wax and go and give your ride a bit of a polish whilst you're waiting for the breakdown company to come along and replace your busted alternator belt. :Meh
     
  4. Bertie'sMum

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    "use it or lose it" is as true about our High Street shops as it is about our muscles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. HarlequinCat

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    I think there were shops around 400 years ago and markets etc, not as many and mostly just small family type businesses. Goods were exchanged for money though I'm sure some were happy to trade for things they needed :).

    I think the main problem is places like Amazon, who are able to sell things for a lot less than physical shops which have more overheads like rent etc. Also Amazon will accept free returns, which is almost impossible for smaller businesses to do as it will eat into any profit they are making.
    People often go out to look at things they want to buy then try to buy it online for cheaper.
     
  6. Cleo38

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    I was listening to something on R2 about stores closing down & online shopping, & I think there are many reasons why this is happening now. A friend of mine has a shop in a town & I can't believe how much the council charge for rents, then with the added bills on top it really in unbelievable. Surely local councils could do more to help businesses with reduced rents or reducing parking charges in the towns, etc to help them out especially if they were new or struggling.

    But then some shops just haven't evolved, they have relied on their past reputation & this only lasts so long. Also some shops still just don't get how much good customer service can count, a lot of people do like to chat with someone about the products they are buying, see them, etc so this is where some shops could really do well (& a few do) but they don't & seem to think it's all about low prices when it isn't always.

    I do all my shopping online as I really don't want to spend my time wandering around shops as I would rather be out with my dogs so am probably part of the 'problem' But then I do buy from a lot from peope on Etsy when it comes to presents, etc so I am supporting more independent businesses rather than just the large ones which IMO matters a lot.
     
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    I do a lot of shopping on line, apart from groceries. If I want to go into the nearest city its 10 miles. I have to go 3 miles to find a bus stop which allows me to use my bus pass. Parking is only for 1 hour unless you pay.
     
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    I do pretty much all my shopping online. I don’t know what the fuss is about. One delivery van driving about, or a hundred cars being driven into town and parking. Which is better? With Etsy and eBay and even amazon small businesses thrive online too. I’ve got better things to do than sit in rush hour traffic, try to find somewhere to park, stand in queues at checkouts and manoeuvre my way through crowds of busy people. I get most of my food delivered in freezer packs too, from small, ethical online companies. One even gives you a label so you can return the packaging free of charge for recycling.
     
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  9. steveshanks

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    I'm happy to lose it to be honest, not counting food shops (i think we will always need those) we have 2 shops in town that i use, 1 very little (electrical) and one a lot (DIY/General) and to be honest its almost always been like that, even before on-line shopping. I think the short version of that is I have always had to travel at least 20 miles to get to decent shops so on-line shopping has been a breakthrough. The other thing is choice, i needed a new tool chest, i don't need snap-on just a basic cheapy one, Argos is £520 Halfords i could get one with lower door (don't want that) for £225 if they had it in stock, cost me £15 in petrol and 2 hours at least.......Got one on Ebay exactly how i wanted for £145, free next day postage (i know its not really free)

    Another thing about on-line shopping is what if you can't drive, I've just had 3 weeks in hospital and no driving for 6 weeks, no lifting for goodness knows how many months so for 6 weeks. My sister doesn't drive so we'd have been stuck with shopping in small co-op or tescos, its really opened my eyes as to how hard it must have been if you didn't drive, are disabled or similar before the internet.
     
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    Oh and a shout out to Yodel, DPD and Hermes, fantastic guys and girls :)
     
  11. O2.0

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    I try to buy food locally as much as possible and pretty much all of our produce is local. I'll happily go to farmer's markets and roadside stands for food.

    Clothing I buy online through recycled (2nd hand) type outlets. The one I like the most has the option to choose the ware house nearest you to minimize the carbon footprint of shipping the clothes to you.

    Other things it just depends.
    I'm also fit and slim despite my online shopping :p:p
     
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  12. Carsonspride

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    Hiya, don't post often although I read a few times daily but read this, passed on to next post and then thought I had to say my piece. I live near a town named Falkirk, Central Scotland and I absolutley loathe having to go to the town. It is actually quite frightening. Beggars, drunks, people thrusting collection pails in your face. Added to that is the fact that there is nothing in the High Street any more. M&S closing this week, Woolworths closed a few years ago. Full of charity shops and empty shops. 12 years ago I worked in Fife and the Fifers were always coming to Falkirk for a days shopping on a Saturday. It was a great town for shopping. There was an indoor shopping market called the In Shops which had lots of brilliant wee jewellers, clothes shops, handbag shops, stalls etc. My cousin had an electrical shop in it. Next thing was, the council trebled the rent and the small traders all left (closed down).
    Falkirk also had a great outdoor market - it's gone now. Parked in Asdas the other week to go to my bank (just at the entrance to Asdas). First thing I encountered on the way up the steps from the carpark was a drunk sitting on the stairs with a bottle of whiskey. On arriving at the top of the stairs beggars are sitting on the ground.
    I am 61 have a bad back and feel much safer shopping online from the comfort of my couch with my dogs cuddled in.
    Council need to have a rethink and police need to move drunks, druggies and beggars on.
     
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  13. Arnie83

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    The customer is king and there is no turning back. If we are offered something that we want, then that's what we'll go for. Look how many bank branches have closed over the years as telephone and online services took over. When I started work you used to have to go to the bank during your lunch break, and the queues were always long because the bank staff were at lunch too!

    I think before long online shopping will itself evolve with deliveries becoming slicker and more convenient. High streets will largely disappear, and physical shops will eventually become rare, maybe for highly specialised products which really must be seen / experienced before sale, or for products that cannot really be delivered by 'drone' like, maybe, a pet shop!

    Eventually shops may open to allow a nostalgic experience to those who don't remember what shopping used to be like!
     
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    In the main I do prefer shopping online. I don't like shopping, walking around with crowds of people. All rather stressful!
    I'd rather go for a walk with my dog!

    Saying that I do avoid amazon as much as I can and of the shops I know I like I order through their independent website.

    I have noticed more and more charity shops and betting shops on the High Street nowadays. I wonder where the charities get all their donations from. There must be a finite amount of people who donate
     
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    I think charity shops don’t pay the expensive council rents and rates a private enterprise would have to, so they can probably afford the premises, especially the bigger charities. Their staff are volunteers too.
     
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    For everyone who advocates/prefers online shopping and isn't sad to see the demise of the High Street think about the other side of the coin for a moment - what about all those people who can't access the internet - people like the elderly who don't have (or don't want) computers, ipads or smart phones and are not technically minded, where will they shop in the future ?

    I live alone and my weekly supermarket shop is part of my social life - if I didn't actually visit shops and interact with the shop assistants ,there are some weeks when I wouldn't speak to another soul; and there plenty of people just like me.
     
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    We recently had a new bathroom fitted and the local bathroom store who fitted it for us was reducing the size of their store from six units to four. We asked the owner why and he told us he was paying a £1000 per week in business rates that’s nearly £9000 per annum per unit. Is it any wonder small businesses cannot survive. Councils need to stop being so greedy.

    I must admit that I don’t shop much on the high street these days but that is because I have walking difficulties and shopping online is easier for me.
     
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    I can't remember the last time I went in a shop, if I do it will be to get something I need straight away that day and can't wait for a delivery. I've never liked shopping, hate crowds of people, the noise and the bright lights. As I work from home its not like I can just pop out in my lunch break or on my way home from work. I even do my garden plant shopping online.
     
  19. O2.0

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    Am I the only one who remembers catalogue shopping before we had online shopping?
    You would receive a catalogue, select your items, call a phone number, get a customer service agent, tell them the item numbers, they take your credit card number, or you would send a check via snail mail, and in a few weeks your order arrives. I remember doing this for office supplies :)

    IOW shopping without leaving home has existed well before the internet.
     
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    I remember my mum doing that when I was small. And when it came to Christmas she would get us to look through the catalogues and list down the things/kids toys we like and the catalogue number and she would secretly order a couple of the things from the list. I used to like looking through them :p
     
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