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Mystery illness in 1 year old male!

Discussion in 'Rabbits' started by Di66, Jul 25, 2009.


  1. Di66

    Di66 PetForums Newbie

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    Can anyone recognise these symptoms? - my vet thought it might be ilios but wasn't sure. (He wasn't much use!) My rabbit has had this 3 times now. He seems fine one minute then suddenly his breathing becomes very rapid. He loses interest in everthing, food, water, and us. He starts rolling on his back and seems really uncomfortable. He sometimes seems to struggle to get up. Once he even rolled fully on his back and fully stretched his legs out. It was horrible to see because I know rabbits don't do this. He doesnt grind his teeth but looks in pain. He doesnt like having his tummy rubbed at all, even gently (I tried this because one webiste said it helped to release gasses). He had runny stool this morning directly before it happened so I am wondering if it is linked to diet. He was in the garden this morning eating a weed and I wonder if this caused it. However the last time it happened he hadn't been outside of a day becasue of storms. I don't think I would have recognised these symptoms when we first got him but becasue I know him really well now I can tell he's very poorly. It generally only lasts for about an hour or two, but I want to know what to do. He's aleways fine afterwards and breathing goes back to normal.
     
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    crofty PetForums VIP

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    Hmm Im not sure if you go to Rabbit Rehome - Adopt an unwanted bunny from a rescue centre and go to the forum theres lots of experienced rescues and veterinary nurses there that may have seen this before.
     
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    Whats his diet like?
     
  4. Di66

    Di66 PetForums Newbie

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    THanks for the reply. He always has a massive pile of straw we make sure he's never without it but to be honest I don't know if he's eating enough of it. He seems to be but he also eats a lot of Delue rabbit mix we buy from a supermarket which he seems to love. It's hard to gauge I know he should be eating about eighty per cent hay. We also give him a carrot stick each morning and some brocolli. (Porbably too much but he begs and it is very hard to refuse - exactly how he learned to do this I do not know, because we never encouraged him to beg for food!) His bowl is always filled with the rabbit mix so he can choose which he prefers but I am thinking now that maybe I should ration this and just give him hay through the day as I have rules out everything else. I'm sure he's not stressed. He's sleeping now incidently and looks fine, really chilled his breathing is right back to normal too.
     
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    emzybabe PetForums VIP

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    I only feed my bun a handful of pellets, the rest is hay, grass and veg
     
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    Di66 PetForums Newbie

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    I am going to try a different vet - someone has suggested it may be neurological problem .
     
  7. Nonnie

    Nonnie PetForums VIP

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    You are feeding him all wrong. Rabbits shouldnt eat straw as it can cause blockages. You need a good quality hay (long strand, not chopped) and just a very small handfull of pellets/mix once a day. You can top this up with daily veg such as spring greens, parsley, fresh grass. Carrots should be fed sparingly as they are very fattening.

    If his bowl is always full and in front of him, he wont eat the hay and his diet will be too high in fat and too low in fibre. I wouldnt be surprised if his problem is dietry related, as i doubt his gut is working at an optimum level.
     
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    Di66 PetForums Newbie

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    Sorry my mistake it IS definitely hay not straw, and long strand at that.
    I think you are right that having his bowl always there for him with the other food in might be a bad idea though. I think he has became too picky. It will be adressed but I also have the name of a RWA vet in the area and I am going to take him there.
     
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    Nonnie PetForums VIP

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    Sounds like a good idea. Most normal vets are terrible when it comes to rabbits.

    Please let us know the outcome.
     
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    toddy PetForums Senior

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    It sounds very much like the symptoms of bloat but it is unusual for rabbits to get over a bout of bloat like this.
    I would go with it is dietar and maybe he is producing too much gas.
    What are his droppings like normally?
     
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    Di66 PetForums Newbie

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    His droppings are normaly fine although now and then he does have wet ones. When this happens we destrict his die to just hay - we buy hay cookies to encourage him to eat more hay. He eats his willow toys too which we treat him too - but surely they arent going to cause a problem?
     
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    bunnies are ment to have soft poos which they then re eat coz they cant get all the goodness the first time round.
    My rabbit isnt a fan of the hay cakes I think their too processed and old hay, she loves the fresh green hay and timothy hay tho

    i would keep ur eye on it, and take him to a specialised vets if u can find one
     
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