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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Tacey, Aug 24, 2013.


  1. Tacey

    Tacey PetForums Senior

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    AaaarrrgggGGGHGhhh.

    I don't very often have problems with other dog owners, April is very well behaved and only interested in playing with dogs she knows well. She won't approach other dogs and if they approach her she either runs away or lays on the floor. Most mornings we walk up in the woods and playing fields, we know everyone else who walks there at that time, see loads of other dogs and people and walk with some of them. We never have any problems there. But normally on a Saturday morning I walk her down the linear path instead - a tarmac path that ends in a field - and every time now she gets terrorized by these two whippets. They don't mean her any harm, but they chase her and she's terrified of them. The owner normally stands around calling them back and they totally ignore him. Today I put her on the lead and stood in front of her, as expected they came racing over barking and growling. The owner is about 60, doesn't carry any leads, and has no control over the dogs at all. I told him he needs to control his dogs and he went off the wall at me! Going on about how he has 30 years experience of dog ownership and it's my problem that my dog is nervous! Ugh. How do you even deal with someone like that... April IS nervous of some dogs, but his dogs are the ones coming over and causing the problem. I told him that with that much experience he should know better and be able to control his own dogs, his reply was "oh get a life". :rolleyes:

    I guess I will just stop walking there but it's so irritating. :mad: It's not like I can avoid him as it's a fairly narrow path way.
     
  2. McKenzie

    McKenzie PetForums VIP

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    How infuriating! I can sympathise - Kenzie really doesn't like being charged at by dogs (I don't blame her), especially if the dogs are bigger than her (which isn't hard!). I've had the usual 'they're fine' - uh, no they're not, they're scaring my dog - and was also told once, after two large dogs terrified mine by charging at her and then continuing to chase her as she tried to get away, that I needed to socialise my dog better! I felt like asking them how they would feel if two elephants charged at them, because that's what it's like for her!
     
  3. SLB

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    Don't let him spoil your walk!

    I'd warn him that if the next time he sees you with April, if his dogs aren't onlead then you will personally take them to the dog warden or call the police.

    In the eyes of the law, dogs are property. If you feel yourself or your property is threatened. You can act within the law to remove such threat.

    I would suggest taking a stick but I don't know how this would deter him in the future and you can't take pet corrector because April might become even more nervous.

    Poor dogs - too have such an ignorant owner! No doubt if they'd been taught correctly they could probably have been good friends rather than "oh no, not them again".
     
  4. sskmick

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    Some people really don't see the problem, or don't care preferring to blame other dogs even when the other dog like yours is on a lead.

    I had a similar problem with an owner of a German Shepherd, my dog was on the lead. It came hurtling towards us hackles up, totally ignoring it owners calling him. I couldn't run anywhere, I shouted very firmly (sargeant major type of bellow) with my arm full stretch stay, I also lifted my dog up into my arms.

    The owner was shouting at me because apparently it was my reactions why her dog is reacting badly. She knows what she's talking about because her dog trainer told her.

    Once they passed I put my dog down and the bloody thing came back at us again. I told her she needs to get a proper dog trainer and learn how to control her dog instead of me having to do it. By hell did she get some verbal off me, :incazzato: she was with her partner/husband - he never said a word. This couple have since moved - bliss.

    tbh I don't care whether these dogs are friendly or aggressive, neither you nor I should have to put up with other people's dogs on our walks. If owners cannot recall their dog(s) then dogs should be kept on a lead - period.

    I hope you and your dog are okay, these twits don't realise or agan don't care what damage these encounters can do to other dogs.

    I had better stop posting now I'm getting more and more angry. :incazzato:
     
  5. Quinzell

    Quinzell PetForums VIP

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    I would just go ahead and contact the dog warden and let them deal with it. His dogs are acting in an intimidating manner and he can get in trouble because of that, especially if you express concern for your safety.

    Or you could always print this off - https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview and next time you see it hand it to him and tell him that the next time you will contact the warden/police.

    Another foolish person who doesn't understand the risks that they are taking with their dogs lives by acting so ignorant and arrogant :mad:
     
  6. GingerRogers

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    So frustrating dealing with people like this. I suspect his get a life response shows that he knows exactly who is right and who is wrong :rolleyes:
     
  7. sskmick

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    The dog wardens need a name and address, perhaps if this guy is on the field at a regular time every day then may be a dog warden would meet the OP on the field.

    My dog was actually viciously attacked by two off lead dogs in the Street, well sign posted dogs must to be kept on a lead. The police weren't interested because these dogs weren't deemed a dangerous breed, :incazzato: I had to spell the law out to them that any dog is deemed dangerous if it is dangerously out of control in public. I was then told dogs fight that's what they do. The Dog Warden Dept (then came under the Environment Dept/Agency) who wanted full details of the owner including an address. I did find out where the owner lived. Never heard anymore.

    These dogs are Wippets, as much as it pains me to say it any compaint will be swept under the carpet. My dog is a Staffie - totally different ball game in those circumstances my dog would be classed as follows: -

    1. as a dangerous breed or type.
    2. intimidating to the public
    3. a danger to the public

    My dog would be seized and possibly destroyed.

    This is why I am so passionate about this subject, I am actually frightened to let my dog off the lead because all it takes is for some one to say they felt intimidated by my dog, and yet owners who do not have control over their dogs, allow them to intimiate other people and their dogs in the eyes of the law is acceptable provided the dog isn't deemed a dangerous breed or breed type. The only time the law will step in is when these dogs bite a person.

    At best the the dog warden will have a word with the owner. I would love the OP to take matters further and prove me wrong.
     
  8. 8tansox

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    I did know that feeling. I walk elsewhere now. Simply because people can't be bothered to clip their dog(s) on a lead, so they'd charge up to mine barking and circling us. Problem now is, if a dog did wander or run up to Flint, they'd probably get it back in messy bits. I found it easier to walk in deserted places rather than argue with ignorant stupid people. Guess what? I much prefer it too. :D

    My dogs get plenty of interaction with other dogs, but they're controlled, on a lead or generally being well mannered, then they get to play or interact appropriately.

    I can't be doing with arrogant lazy people, especially when they do, or should, know better.
     
  9. lilythepink

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    "Manners maketh man."

    He has no manners, he is not a man.
    Nothing you can do to change someone else's behaviour, count yourself lucky you didn;t marry this crud or he was your dad.

    No excuse for being rude.

    I wonder if your dog had been a pitbull and you had been a 6feet skinhead covered in tattooes and with serious attitude if he would have said what he said? No, prob not and I would put money on it if you had been the skinhead etc he would have controlled both his dogs or kept out of your way.
     
  10. mollydog07

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    My usually incident free walk to my local park left me livid,molly my blind girl was onlead,along comes an off lead terrier .its running round molly shes growling,it goes for molly am trying to separate them,its owner strolls over and proclaims his dog dosent go for other dogs! I scream at him to get it on a lead.he carries on walking it offlead as if nothing has happened.molly although physically fine has taken a battering to her confidence,offlead she wouldn't move:(.
     
  11. Pupcakes

    Pupcakes Lady of The Terrors.

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    You should have called me and The Terrors! Chances are we would have been out close by :)
    There is a man who walks a Whippet and literally lets it run like a looney and steal Dotties toy, I have to chase her round the field to get it back :mad: the man is in his own world, then it rams its nose up Dotties butt and this upsets her even more!

    Me and my friend are down town later on with Charlie and her dog if you're about.
    Hooe your next walk is more peaceful :( I'm always up The Odd Down fields if you're everabout xxx
     
  12. dorrit

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    A few years ago I got so sick of a man with an out of control off lead and aggrssive Great Dane that I took extreme measures.

    His dog would bound over snarling and snapping at my dogs and on more than one occasion I was force to back up into someone elses front garden. If I said anything to the man he became very aggressive even threatening my(at the time) 14 year old daughter and calling her very disgusting names.
    Reports to police and council did nothing..

    So I bought a big bad rape alarm.. The next time the dog came bouding over I held my boys tightly, stretched my arm and aimed at the dane,, The noise stopped it short and then it ran...
    The man started to swear and curse and everytime he did I pressed the alarm. He turned purple with rage and I continued to press the alarm everytime he swore..

    By this time people were looking out of windows and opening front doors to find out what the hell was going on..

    He became so frustrated that in the end he chose to run off after his dog rather than face the neighbours , after that he would cross the road and put his dog on leash if he saw me coming.

    Some people dont learn from being asked nicely....
     
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    the rape alarm sounds like a great idea would love to have seen his face when you did that
     
  14. Freyja

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    This is one reason why my whippets are not allowed to free run with other dogs. Whippets just do not play the same as other dogs they love to chase and can be very pushy and rowdy and too tend to grab at other dogs necks.

    I am not defending this mans dogs he should take responsibilty for their actions and put them on a lead if they do not recall straight away. As others have said report him to the dog warden if they ask for an address and you don't have it but he regualry walks at the same time then ask if they can meet up with you or just be there when he walks his dogs. If they will not go out to see him walking his dogs the next time you see them loose tell the man if you see them loose again you will report them hopefully that will be enough for him to get them under control. I did this with a man who insisted his malamute was not being aggressive towards my dogs despite the fact it was circling them with its hackles up growling. Needless to say he now puts it on a lead as soon as he sees me and his wife was a police woman so she must have told him I was right and the dog should be on a lead as he never argued again.
     
  15. labradrk

    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    My experience is that you cannot reason with people like that. It happens on a near daily basis here.
     
  16. Lurcherlad

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    I had exactly the same situation, repeatedly with a woman and her 2 whippets near me!

    The last time it happened I have her a right tongue lashing reminding her of her responsibilities - train the dog to recall or don't let it off etc. etc.

    Only seen her once since, but she recalled both her dogs as soon as she spotted me!

    If it happens again I will report her to the dog warden. I can give a good description of her and her dogs and she walks in a fairly small area so should be easy to locate ;)

    Hopefully, though she has decided that SHE is in the wrong and the next person she encounters like that may not be as "polite" as I was :D
     
  17. WeedySeaDragon

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    I was just about to post something along the lines of this. Ours are never allowed off lead around other dogs as even though they just want to play, their idea of playing is vastly different to that of most dogs we meet. Fitz especially is very pushy and will bark, growl and pester a dog to try and get it to join in his chase games.

    It's very typical whippety behaviour and very easily managed just by putting them on lead if there are other dogs about. Hardly difficult and ours still get plenty of opportunity to stretch their legs together without us having to terrorise everyone we meet on walks.
     
  18. Tacey

    Tacey PetForums Senior

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    Thanks for your replies everyone :)

    I don't really know if there's much point in reporting him to the dog warden. I just can't imagine them doing a thing about it...

    Each time this has happened before he gives me the "oh it's because they're whippets" line. Like that makes it ok... April is a border collie it doesn't mean I allow her to go around herding and nipping other dogs! (not that she would :p )

    From his reaction it's fairly obvious there's never going to be any reasoning with him. He's incredibly ignorant. I'll just save myself the stress and not walk there for now. We have other places to walk. :)
    Although I do like the idea of the rape alarm :p :p
     
  19. Pupcakes

    Pupcakes Lady of The Terrors.

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    I went to Warleigh Weir for the first time today, we didnt see a soul! Its only 10minute drive away, have you tried there? April would love it! xxx
     
  20. Tacey

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    Oh yes, she loves it there!
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