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Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by ginger1996, May 8, 2014.


  1. ginger1996

    ginger1996 PetForums Newbie

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    My puppie doguebordeux is 6 months old she has been very nervous since the day we got her we have had her about 3 months now and she still is so nervous it's blatently obvious someone has hurt her before she is very timid when approaching her you need for her to wait for you she doesnt really play or she won't let me take her for a walk as soon as I bring the lead out she runs, she loves my 8 year old labradoodle she idolises him. Even if she is eating and you walk past her she will leave her food and run all she does is sleep too which I understand being a pup someone help with advice or tips very worried
     
  2. Meezey

    Meezey Slave to the Black & Tans and the Trundle Bugs.

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    Where did she come from originally?

    Have you had her vet checked?

    Have you taken her to classes to socialise her?
     
  3. Sled dog hotel

    Sled dog hotel PetForums VIP

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    Did you get her from the breeder and do you know where and how she was raised? Also did you see her with mum and any of her siblings? If you did how was mums temperament and how did she act with the siblings and with you when you went to get her? That can often tell you quite a lot. If Mum was a nervous type then her behaviour can often be reflected on the pups behaviour.
    Also where the pups were raised can have an influence and also how they were socialised and introduced to things and handled from birth.
    The first 16 weeks of a pups life they do go through many critical stages of development and depending on how they are raised during this time can have a large impact on their behaviour. The Mums temperament as mentioned too has a genetic impact and also the way mum raises them has an impact. It may be possible shes been ill treated as you didn't get her to 3 months old, but if she did come from the breeder direct to you, then there could be a lot more to it.

    Large fast growing breeds to tend to sleep quite a lot, but inbetween the sleeping they should still have periods of high activity and be interested in playing and interacting so, that doesn't sound normal at all.

    Possibly the best bet would be too get in professional help In the form of a one to one behaviourist, that has experience with severe anxiety problems, who can assess her properly and work with you with a tailor made behaviour modification programme. There is CAPBT - COAPE Association of Pet Behaviourists and Trainers you should find ones in your area on there, but I would suggest you talk to a few, and find one with proven practical experience and success with the problems you are having, as well a formal dog behaviour qualificatiions.

    The only things or suggestions I can immediately come up with that often helps fearful nervous dogs, and rescue dogs that have been ill treated or lack confidence are the ones below

    Do you take her out with the labradoodle or try to take her out on her own?
    If you try to take her out on her own and she idolises the labradoodle and he is a laid back dog with no anxiety of nervousness himself, and is laid back and good with other dogs, then in theory he should be a good influence on her and give her confidence.

    With a really timid nervous dog that runs away, the worse thing you can do is to try to press attention on them. What often works with timid nervous rescue dogs and you could try with her. Is to give her den in the farthest corner of the room where you spend a lot of the time. Put her bed in there often something like under a table is good. It might sound like the opposite of what you are trying to achieve, but sometimes if they have a den that they feel safe in and somewhere to retreat too if anxious, but at the same time they can watch whats going on and learn from and then they will often venture out in their own time.

    Normally what you do when they do show curiosity is to not try to look at them make eye contact, speak to them basically ignore them, but slowly and gently throw high value treats or food, so they land near her, and then if they take one, which is usually a good sign, then you just carry on throwing treats but decrease the distance between you so they should come nearer with the treats to encourage them to approach, until finally the will take one dropped by your chair, then you can speak to them, see if they will take a treat, and then finally look at them and build up to eye contact, doing it all at the dogs pace and when they are ready. If she is so bad she runs when you approach when she is eating though it may or may not work like it usually does but its something you could try to see if it helps build some confidence and interaction.

    Something else that often works with timid or ill treated rescue dogs, that will retreat to the back of their kennels and wont come forward, is to sit outside the kennel with your backs to them literally just reading out load, it sounds mad but it gets them used to your voice and you being near without forcing any attention on them, then you progress to doing the same sitting down but side on, and then gradually build up contact from there as they get used to having you near and the sound of your voice again at a pace the dog can cope with. If the Den Idea works then perhaps that's something you can try or start to do.

    Training and playing, rewarding with calm gentle praise and treats is another usual way to build confidence and bonding too, but again with the not eating and running away when you approach her when she is eating, then again that's something you cant really try at the moment if she has no interest in things like balls of toys.

    Often one type of toy you can usually get them interested in are Kongs, that you can fill with food, either her own or something special and strong smelling.
    Shes obviously not going to interact in play, but it might encourage her to investigate it and try to get the food out of it. There are also Kong wobblers you can fill with kibble, that drops kibble out as they nose it about. Although the Busy buddies are easier to get the kibble out of and better to start with.
    It might be worth trying.
    Recipes - KONG

    Kong Stuffing Ideas - Kong Recipes - Kong Dog Toy - Kong Stuffing

    Wobbler - KONG

    Busy Buddy Twist-n-Treat - YouTube

    With the running away when you approach when she is eating, its something you can work on later, as long as she is eating and getting proper nutrition, for the moment I would give her her food and just leave her be to eat it in peace until shes finished at the moment, or in a room, with your other dog with her if shes better with him.

    Only other thing that may be some help is the Puppy plan, its a socialisation plan that really is meant to cover the first 16 weeks of life, it explains the importance, and at the end of the breeders section there is a plan for all the things she should have experienced before you got her for 0 - 8 weeks, then at the end of the new owners is a plan for 8 - 16 weeks. I know she is past this age but it might be some help.

    Puppy Plan - Welcome to the Puppy Socialisation Plan website
     
  4. Riff Raff

    Riff Raff PetForums Senior

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    Good advice given above. Just wanted to add that a good booklet to read would be Patrica McConnell's Cautious Canine.
     
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