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My cat had kittens yesterday morning

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by Turkilou, May 18, 2010.


  1. Turkilou

    Turkilou PetForums Member

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    my cat had her kittens yesterday morning. The thing is today, she is going to feed them but doesnt want to be with them as much as yesterday they are only one day old, and she already doesnt seem that intrested in them, she wants to have a walk round the house. I hope she is just wanting a little space from them but doesnt reject them!! would she have rejected them by now if she was going to? im sure she is ok with them because she wouldnt feed them would she? im a little worried :confused:
     
  2. jen24

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    as long as she goes to them when they call she should be fine. keep an eye on her but the first few days can take a little getting used to, just like us humans that have babies it can feel a little overwhelming.
     
  3. HollyM

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    Is it her first litter?
     
  4. Turkilou

    Turkilou PetForums Member

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    thanks jen,

    yeah holly it is her first litter and last!! she seems to get out more when she see's me so now i am just wondering if its because she wants to be in my company as she was very loving and close to me before she had them and while she was pregnant!
     
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    Just give her some time, she is just getting used to motherhhood! Keep us updated.
     
  6. Turkilou

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    ok holly thanks, i will do
     
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    I'd definately recommend confining her and babies to one room. Keep the door shut and don't let her out.

    My girl would be off round the house if I let her, and would likely not hear babies if she was at the other end of the house. At least if she is confined to the same room, you will know if you need to act if she does ignore the babies if they cry a lot.
     
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  8. jen24

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    I wouldnt confine them, sorry, but that could make it worse, you could scare her and she'll think of the babies as a bad thing.

    just keep doing what your doing, she'll get the hang of it, she needs time.:D
     
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    Aurelia PetForums VIP

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    I suggested confining mum and babies to one room, not a tiny cage! I doubt very much it would scare her. So long as she has everything she needs in that room she will be fine. It would also give the OP an opportunity to see if there is a problem a lot quicker, which is vital when the kittens are so young.
     
  10. jen24

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    im pretty sure others will agree with me that confining her so early on without giving her a chance to adapt is not the right way to go whether it is a room or a cage. and i never assumed you meant a cage, i knew you meant room. but its not a good idea.

    thats just my opinion.
     
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    Aurelia PetForums VIP

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    Indeed it is your opinion.

    I'm going from experience. On about day 7 of our new kitties, Rilly went walk abouts for a couple of hours, all that day she paid barely any notice of the kittens. Indeed when she was upstairs she didn't hear them crying for food. So my hubby fetched her down, and she has been confined to this room ever since. She is also spending most of her time in with the kitties now, and they are gaining good weight. That night when we weighed the kitties they had barely gained any weight, if it had gone on for any longer they would have lost weight, which is not good but they would have been OK if the problem was corrected (which it was). Younger kittens go down hill a lot quicker.

    Most importantly, confining Rilly has not stressed her out at all.

    Just wanted to add a bit more:

    My reasoning for advising this is simple. I don't and wouldn't advise confining a cat to a small room. By confining to the same room as the nest box, and providing the mum has food, water and litter tray in there ... you are not forcing her to feed the kittens, you are however putting her in there and she will hear their cries, and be more likely to attend to them. It's helping along a situation, not forcing it. It worked for us, and our kitties are healthy because of it.
     
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    how many litters has your cat had?
     
  13. Aurelia

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    This is her first litter (but I am being constantly mentored by a breeder who does this all year round), which you know full well.

    If you read my last post, you will see I have gone by experience, the one I am having now. My advice is what we did and works for us.
     
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    Sorry, it may have worked for you but no i still do not agree. when i acat feels cornered and enclosed they panic. they need a break from the kittens sometimes. they need to be able to et away, they also need to feel safe. maybe as a last resort yes, maybe nut not when the kittens are a day old and the mother hasnt got used to it yet. she needs time.

    i love my children but i wouldnt want to be locked in a room with them 24/7. mothers animal or not need a break and need to be able to leave.
     
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    how does he know this is your first litter?! he hasnt spoken to you before. he posted before seeing your last post so hadnt read it.
     
  16. Tje

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    I’ve fostered countless mums with their kittens, and they are always confined to one room.

    I’ve had some (a good few) litters where the mothers were so hopeless with the kittens (dumping them in litter trays, or in corners, leaving them on top of the cat-tree or on the window sill lying in a draught… all this with tiny helpless kittens) that we built a very spacious cat pen in our “kitten room” and when we have mothers that are prone to trailing their kittens all over the place, we put those litters in the big pen.

    I have tried all different ways of encouraging the less motherly mothers to be a bit more motherly (and have read every book I could find on the subject), and have come to the conclusion that the ones who really do have problems being a mother, well … 9 times out of 10 when confined to the kitten-pen they do actually become much better mothers. (and of course I let them out a few times a day to stretch their legs and have a wander around).

    My kitten pen is spacious though… its almost 2 meters wide by a meter deep and a meter high… and although I don’t use it often, it has been a godsend with some mother cats. Without it I was bottle feeding (or topping up with the bottle) a lot more than I have to now. I had one mother who didn't lcik her kittens once in 5 days (not even to toilet them), and feeding was a nightmare, she gave them about 10 minutes tops every two hours. I had to toilet them all and bottle feed them all... after 5 days (and nights) I confined them to the pen, and in no time she was a perfect mother.

    I know my experience might not be typical of people whose kittens are from their own cat, but after lots of experimentation it’s what works best for me.

    My friend who breeds BSH cats… she has a niche area of her living closed off with plexi glass that is about a meter high. The mother cats can come and go as they please… most times her cats are excellent and attentive mothers, but on the odd occasions when she’s had a mother cat who was less attentive and prone to ignoring the kittens too much, she has moved the litter to her spare bedroom and the problem has been solved.

    My advice to the OP… play it by ear, see how it goes, but if she is neglecting the kittens then personally I would confine her to one room… at least try it out and see how it goes.

    I certainly don't think confining a litter to one room is as was mentioned above a "bad idea".... what would be a bad idea would be to let it go too far... so far that she does actually reject them. Play it by ear and if needed, timely intervention. Make sure she can't take them on walkabouts at night time or when you're not home.

    Very best of luck !!
     
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    So say you leave hospital with your brand new baby, and you are breast feeding. You don't stay with them 24hrs a day for at least the first few days?

    Again you are making it sound like I am advising she confine them to a small room! No way! The babies are only tiny at this stage and need regular feeding. The babies can't walk or even see right now, so how is she not able to get away for a break by simply leaving the nest box and sitting the other side of the room if she needs to?

    :rolleyes:

    I think it's about time I put both of you on ignore, as it will only end badly otherwise. You go and find someone else to tag team bully. I'm no longer going to be your victim. I come on these forums to socialise with other pet lovers, I refuse to have the experience ruined by folks like you.
     
  18. Tje

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    Jen, you may not agree with Aurelia (sp??) but the advice she is giving is the advice I have received from umpteen vets over a 20+ year time span. I have lived in 3 different continents and many different countries and fostered for loads of different shelters and charities, and when a mother has wanderlust... vets always advice curtailing the amount of space available to the mother cat. There's not that many things that I can say vets agree 100% on, but this (in my opinion and experience) is one of them. And it's all fine and well saying "as a last resort it's okay".... there is a very fine line between a wandering non-attentive mother and outright rejection.... so by all means treat confining as a last resort if you wish, but please don;t ever leave it too late or you will be facing outright rejection. I know now that years ago I had mother cats totally reject their litters, but I had I intervened earlier, I could have stalled or totally stopped that rejection process.
     
  19. jen24

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    i had homebirths! and yes i watched them all day everyday but i still like to be able to leave the room occasionally! :rolleyes:

    excuse me but i have not been bullying you at all, for goodness sake, just because i dont agree with you on something! i disagreed and you had a hissy fit! sorry but if you look you will see i posted here before you so im not bullying you at all.

    i expect childish behaviour from children not an adult love.

    all i was trying to say, if you would actually listen to me is, the cat needs time to adjust! one day isnt enough time. ive already advised they keep a close eye and see how it goes. i never said leave her to it and dont bother with them. i said give her time like another poster said.

    i think we can see who is doing the bullying here! :rolleyes:
     
  20. jen24

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    and like i said to aurelia its was just my opinion!! i thought opinions were allowed on here!! ive already said its fine if it works for others but i wouldnt recommend it when the babies are only a day old. the mother needs a little time to adjust.
     
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