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MinPin Broken leg

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by jamatoke, Sep 8, 2013.


  1. jamatoke

    jamatoke PetForums Newbie

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    Hi guys my miniature pincher has broken his leg today at 12 weeks old.
    Anybody any any experience with this? my vet says he needs specialist surgery as the break is horizontal and vertical with some pieces shattered off.
    Will my pup be able to walk again do you think?
    Also i got 4 weeks free insurance which runs out today!!
    I will of course need to renew first thing tomorrow but will they let me as he is going to need a payout the day the policy starts? apparently it will be well in excess of £1000 which is alot of money for me to try and scrape together.
    Any opinions?
     
  2. shadowmare

    shadowmare The dog doesn't bite, me on the other hand...

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    I'm sorry to hear that! :( I'm afraid that most likely your insurance will not cover the treatment. Are you planning to use the same insurance company? I'm not 100% sure about renewing insurance, but when you start a new insurance they have a 14 day period before the insurance actually covers your pet. I have a bad feeling in your case they would say that you should sign a renewal before your free insurance ends:001_unsure:
    Regarding the actual broken leg I can't say anything good either I'm afraid. My experience of such unfortunate accident ended poorly. I do hope you and your pup will be luckier. What exactly happened if you don't mind me asking? And what did the vet say? Did he give you any prognosis? In my case I was meant to pick up my puppy just in 2 weeks but when he was 13 weeks old there was an accident and his femur was broken. I can't say how bad it was I just know it was in the middle of the bone and apparently the vet said prognosis were good. They performed a surgery and secured it with metal plates and pins and the puppy seemed fine (he recovered well and was a happy pup even trying to run) but 2 weeks later at a check up it appeared that he might not recover as there was some problems with the fixture of his bone:crying: The breeder decided not to sell him to me anymore as I had plans for this pup and so I had to look for a new one...:(
    I do really hope everything goes well for you though!:)
     
  3. jamatoke

    jamatoke PetForums Newbie

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    Even though the accident happened while he was covered? yes i was just going to keep the same plan going so there was no new policy being opened.

    The accident happened when my dads dog ran into my pup standing on and snapping his leg :( even if he only gets partial use from the leg im shure he would be happy with that as he is such a tiny dog he is not going to be putting any major pressure on it.

    i just want to make sure he can still have a happy life.
     
  4. shadowmare

    shadowmare The dog doesn't bite, me on the other hand...

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    Have you contacted the insurance as soon as you heard the news from the vet?
     
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    I hope you have taken him to the vet already to make sure appropriate remedy is given.
     
  6. moggiemum

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    i knew a puppy who suffered a broken front leg at a similar age:( he was also a toy breed , he went on to have a very successful carreer in the showring:)

    diet rest and exercise important for healing ,and extra cuddles:) best wishes
     
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    My italian greyhound broke his leg 18 months ago. He was 2 years old and had his leg pinned by a specialist orthopedic vet. Hehad strict cage rest for 4 weeks being carried out for toilet breaks and he was allowed out to sit on our knee at night but he was not to use the leg. After 4 weeks he went onto light exercise limited to 5 minutes on a lead and on flat surfaces. After 10 weeks he was discharged by the vet and allowed to build up his exercise again.

    He now leads a normal life running and jumping as he did before. The vet did say the leg will now be as strong as it was before.

    I am off to work but will post more later.
     
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    The 14 day exclusion period is normally for illness I believe with accidents covered immediately.

    All you can do is ask at time of renewal OP but if your pup was insured when it happened than I am not sure there'll be a problem. I do hope all goes well for your pup.
     
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    One concern I would have at 12 weeks is this is a critical time for learning/socialization. I wonder how easy it would be to make a backpack or something.

    The other thing which I admit I have no clue on. Does your dad's dog insurance, if he has any, include 3rd party insurance, in case his dogs causes injury or an accident? Now I don't condone the sue everyone culture but if you are turned down for costs and don't have any options it may be something worth discussing nicely with him. It may mean his insurance premiums go up though but may get you out of a jam. I wouldn't want it to be a blame game, it's an accident which happens, just mentioning options not possibly thought of. I know in Germany all dogs must be covered by 3rd party insurance and I understand the reasoning for it.
     
  10. jamatoke

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    thanks for the reply guys at work just now so not much time to go into it but after alot of pestering the insurance agreed to let us continue the insurance on the basis we were cut off on the phone on friday at the payment stage and did not have time to call back.
    so the surgery is going ahead tomorrow thank god. will keep you updated to see if he is going to be able to get full use of the leg again.
     
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    Fingers crossed for the operation xx

    In the OP it says 'my vet says he needs specialist surgery as the break is horizontal and vertical'. So I would assume that yes, the pup has seen the vet.
     
  12. shadowmare

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    Oh that's good to hear! Hope he will have a quick recovery :wink:
     
  13. Freyja

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    Buck made a complete recovery and is now being shown at open shows again. The main thing is if to follow the vets instructions to a T. At 12 weeks old I doubt a min pin puppy is very big so it would be easy to carry him out I did with Buck a few times but he weighed around 6kgs so was a bit too heavy to carry far.

    Personally I would rather keep him away from other dogs and concentrate on the healing of the leg and sort out the socialisation later. A knock by an over exhuberant dog at the crucial time in the healing process could cause untol problems.

    I watched a programme on TV a few months ago about a vets I think in Glasgow. They operated on a papilon with a broken leg and it walked out of the vets and they were told it could go for gentle exercise. Sadly they alowed it to do too much and the leg didn't heal he then had to have a second op and they were then told cage rest. I was quite suprised as the vet who operated on Buck told us no exercise at all apart from toilet breaks. I suppose if it was a big dog you would have to let it walk to go outside.

    The vet did say that if Buck had of been younger the bones would heal quicker because they were still growing. She said were as it took Buck's leg nearly 12 weeks it would have been half that with a pup.
     
  14. jamatoke

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    thanks guys you have put my mind at ease a bit.
    the vet has told me it will be 4 weeks cage rest for my pup before the pins are taken out and he can start building his leg strength back up but the vet does expect a full recovery!
    the first vet that examined him told us it was that bad it may have to be taken off!

    do you guys know if it is practise to pay the vet upfront then claim back from insurance? have to find £1700!!
     
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    Our vet told us they are better left in unless he reacted badly to them or the worked loose.

    I've no idea about the insurance as Buck wasn't insured.
     
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    I had a similar problem with the insurance when my dog had surgery because his cruciate ruptured. The surgery cost £2,500 and I was expected to pay that upfront! No way could I afford that so the vet sent a pre-authorisation form to the insurance company to make sure they were willing to pay before the surgery went ahead. So, things worked out fine and the insurance company paid the vet. However, he had a few weeks until his surgery so we had the time to do that - unfortunately, if the surgery for your pup is tomorrow, then there won't be the time for that...

    That is the only time I have had a vet want payment upfront, all other times have been through the insurance company without an issue... I think with his TPLO surgery it was simply because the cost was so high!
     
  17. jamatoke

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    Just thought i would let you guys know he has had the operation and everything has went perfectly.
    Now the long road to recovery. cant wait to get him back its far too quite here without him.
     
  18. Burrowzig

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    Cage rest for so long when he's at such a vital age for socialisation could have serious long-term consequences (as it did for a friend's dog who had a serious injury at the same age and spent so long hospitalised she never learned to cope with many sounds and other dogs). As your pup is a small breed, I'd get a baby sling and cut a hole through for the injured leg and carry her round everywhere you can - she would get less bored too.
     
  19. jamatoke

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    well I thought I would update you guys on remy as we got him back at 5 o clock yesterday.

    The most important thing is that he is completely fine..... almost too fine it doesn't seem to be bothering him at all.
    He still wants to be running around and jumping! I am doing my best to restrict this while a collar is on delivery and he is out for the toilet but is proving very difficult.
    Also in his cage as he is so small there is still quite alot of room for him to move about which I am pretty worried about is there any way I could get him to just take it easy?

    and thanks for all the help folks much appreciated.
     
  20. moggiemum

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    so happy to hear your boy is doing well, does he eat raw? as you could look into this for nutritional benefit in healing the fracture, also as it may get him to rest more as it takes longer to digest i think.

    maybe you could put a big cuddley toy in the cage with him this would take up some of the floor space and he might like to snuggle up to it,:) new chew toys and a kong filled with something nice, sorry but thats all i can think of at the moment:eek: only give his treats for good behaivour in this case resting:eek:
     
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