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Met some nice, and some not so nice dogs today

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by PoisonGirl, Aug 7, 2009.


  1. PoisonGirl

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    Just back from a walk to the field with my pair and Bullseye.

    We had just got to the field when a guy came over and asked if his two staffs could run too.

    So they all ran about happily.. With three entire males there was only one small scuffle... the male staff was pestering Bully.

    Then on our way back we saw two Danes, both wearing muzzles. They were beautiful looking dogs, grey ones. But the guy was having a right job holding the male. He was on a half choke and was straining at the lead growling really deeply and snarling at our lot.

    Fraser commented on the size of them, and the woman replied 'you should have seen them when they were tiny, they were cute'

    I was quite confused. They have had them since puppies, and both are dog aggressive? How do you end up like that? :(
    I also quite mad they brought two dog aggressive dogs on holiday where there are lots of other dogs and children. I have seen the guy walk them and he was carrying the muzzle!
     
  2. goodvic2

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    I myself struggle to understand as well, people that have issues with their dogs, when they have had them since pups. :confused:
     
  3. PoisonGirl

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    It's odd.
    I met a man once who had a collie x lab. She was really badly behaved. He said ''It's because I got her from a rescue'', but when I asked how long he had her (thinking it was a few days) he replied ''3 years and a bit''

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  4. Natik

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    there are dogs which been attacked by others and so develope dog aggression... doesnt mean the owners are a failure :confused:
     
  5. sallyanne

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    My bitch has issue's with other dogs,I've had her since she was an 8 week old puppy and the relevance is ?
     
  6. PoisonGirl

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    Oh, I suppose I hadn't thought of it like that.

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    at least the danes had muzzles on, they were responsible enough for that.
     
  8. Nicky09

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    Yeah at least they were being responsible and had muzzles on them a really stupid owner would have let them offlead near other dogs without muzzles or any kind of recall. They could have developed the issues through no fault of their owners.
     
  9. PoisonGirl

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    Yeah they had muzzles on this time. But I often see the guy walking them through the village without the muzzles on.

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    That is irresponsible especially with such a big powerful breed I doubt many people could hold back a dane that really wanted to go for another dog.
     
  11. PoisonGirl

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    No, he was really struggling to hold him back from dragging him acros the road.

    Actually if I see him again I am going to tell him to put the muzzle on, because the side of the street he walks down only has one dog living there, and that is a 12 week old labpuppy, and what would happen if Alex brought her lab out the gate as the Dane was walking past???

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  12. Nicky09

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    Yeah I would mention nicely that you're worried about the puppy and say about just how nasty an incident between a great dane and a tiny lab puppy could be.
     
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    I had a border collie as a kid and ill be honest and say it was my families minus my moms fault. She was muzzled at all times in public and i remeber having to chase after her when she went after other dogs or a biker.
     
  14. Savahl

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    I got buster at about 10 weeks, rescue but a pup none the less. his dog aggression issues come from 1 JRT, 2x GSDs, 2x SBT and an EBT either attacking (breaking skin) or coming on too strong (3 bull breeds jumping on an on lead terrier pup, he hurt his leg from being knocked about). This was not my failure (he was on lead) but the failure of the other owners controlling their off lead dogs. :)
     
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    See it all the time, sadly it's not always the owners fault.

    Some dogs react more to a certain breed rather than all dogs, Maya has to only see a staff and her hackles are up..she hates them and she has good reasons too. Sadly allot of teenage idiots own them here who have no control over them and think it's great that they are dog aggressive, Maya has been attacked by staffs more than any other dog, that she now thinks all of them are evil and she must go for them first.

    Other times it can become the owners fault from lack of socialization due to work and the hours they have walked their dogs before, or their dog became dominant and the owner did not understand what was going on and has led to dog fights, so forth the dog thinks that another dog is a threat.

    I have a dane breeder as a friend, 6 danes all sweet soppy and well behaved with no issues but she also owns a chihuhua who she's had from an 8 week old pup, and what started of as a sweet dog became dog and people aggressive so much so that he's muzzled and kept on a leash. He's not afraid and will actually run after people (rather funny in some way to see a full grown man running from a 2lb chihuahua, but in another way not so) and he will bite. She's raised him no different from her danes and it's not sure why he is like he is but it's happened.

    It's a shame really and I know from Maya, having a dog that's not always friendly with other dogs is very hard as often other people think i'm bothered by their dog and sadly have had many staff owners have a go at me saying things like it's people like you that give staffs a wrong name blah blah and that they are just misunderstood. I feel awful because I love staffs, they are such happy funny dogs but Maya really hates 'em and no matter what i do she won't even stand being near them, she wants to get at 'em.
     
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    So sad, it's quite obvious the dogs haven't been socialised properly and the muzzles are only making them more aggressive :(
     
  17. gesic

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    my boy is dog/people aggressive.
    I have had him since he was 7 weeks old, we used to show he mixed a lot with other dogs but the aggression got worse as he got older.
    I used to take him out with a muzzle but he was miserable and not learning anything. we then had the muzle clipped to bum bag and only used it if nec, we now do not use it at all, he gets treated as we walk past anything and enjoys this much more.
    He still has major issues and i am accepting now at 7 he wont change, but I do no what he is capable of and can handle him, even though only 5.2 and he is prbs a foot taller than me on his hind legs.
    My only issue is other dog owners who let their dogs wander up to mine off lead saying dont worry my dog is very social....then call them back 7+ times while the dog blatently ignores them! that really tests the traing;)
     
  18. Kinski

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    I don't struggle to understand it at all, it's very simple.
    I've had Arran since he was 8 weeks old, he now has fear aggression thanks to people allowing their out of control dogs bouncing on him as a pup. He is getting better but if a dog comes running up to him full pelt he will try and have a pop at it. A stupid woman just yesterday morning was in the park with her gorgeous collie pup, it came flying over to Arran, I shouted to her that Arran could be aggressive, her reaction ''oh it's okay my pup needs telling of'', I don't give a stuff about her dog my only concern was for Arran and how far back in his accepting other dogs her pup jumping on him was going to cause.

    Terri
     
  19. gesic

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    totally agree, some people are so b..**y ignorant regarding other dogs and the fact they might be in training or have fear issues that need softer handling.
    Although some may say u r asking for trouble taking a fear aggressive dog out where u r likely to meet other dogs, how else r u going to train?
    Just take heart in a lot of the worst behaved owners are fair weather walkers;)
     
  20. goodvic2

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    Maybe having 3 adult rescue dogs, 2 of whom have had severe behavioural problems, it is difficult for me to understand how I can solve the problem, but yet others struggle. I thought the only dogs who had aggression issues were ones who had a bad start to life.

    Maybe I am naive? :)
     
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