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Marking territory??

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Sarah69, May 16, 2010.


  1. Sarah69

    Sarah69 PetForums Newbie

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    I have a 4 yr old minature dashchund and when i take him to my parents house (they have 10 cats, which he gets on well with) he wee's in certain areas and when it has been wiped away he does it almost in same spot again. Is he marking is territory and if so is there a way of stopping him do it? Any ideas?? Thanx
     
  2. leashedForLife

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    hey, sarah! :--)
    do the parents have 11 cat-boxes? :huh: the rule is one per cat, and one extra.
    are they scrupulous about cleaning boxes and changing litter?
    airborne-odors from cat-urine can stimulate dogs to mark; typically M-dogs are much worse than Fs, and INTACT-ms are
    also much-worse than desexed-Ms.

    are the marked-spots cleaned with an enzyme-based cleaner, intended specifically for pet-waste?
    Natures Miracle, Poo-Begone, etc?
    AMMONIA is terrible for cleaning pet-waste, as its a component of urine + triggers more marking.
    ordinary-cleaners will not remove pet-odors; lingering scents trigger repeat events.

    as an immediate management solution -
    i would buy 2 belly-bands for the dog; he has them on BEFORE he enters their home, he wears one as long as he is
    indoors and it comes off ONLY after he exits, to potty outdoors, or to leave for Ur home.
    :thumbup: easy! :001_cool: he is comfy, the walls + bookshelves + sofa are safe.

    belly-bands for male dogs - Google Product Search
    they come in colors, patterns, fabrics, etc -
    ALL cotton with an inch-wide velcro-band to seal it on him is good - polyester + other synthetics can cause skin issues;
    * line it with a cheap self-stick panty liner -
    NO deodorant, NO perfumes
    * check the liner for dampness each time he is out to potty -
    change if damp, or once every 24-hours minimum to reduce bacteria -
    carry a spare or 3 in a jacket-pocket ;)
    * if he DOES pee wearing the belly-band [which BTW is very rare] he will generally not do that again :rolleyes: :p
    * the spare-band is in case one gets wet, dirty from a puddle, etc.
    * to launder the belly-bands SEAL the velcro-strips securely + PIN them with safety-pins to keep them sealed;
    otherwise the hooks fill with lint and become useless blobs ;)

    is he INTACT? if so, i would desex ASAP -
    it is the single simplest + most-effective step to reduce or stop marking in M-dogs.

    if he is already neutered, i suspect one or more of the cats are marking, and the dog over-marks the cat-spray.
    turn-off the lights after-dark + examine every room with a hand-held black-light - UV-light -- in one hand + torch in the other; U don;t want to fall-over a hassock or trip on the stairs. ;) ANY biological spills will fluoresce - dim or bright, depending upon the dilution of the spill.
    things that shine like stars are RINGWORM spores - run a HEPA vacuum and throw out the bag, change the HEPA-filter, and repeat the process; then check for stars in the carpet or on the upholstery again.


    U cannot stop the cats from spraying -
    both M + F cats will mark, and the single most-common trigger is social stress. i cannot imagine a house large-enuf
    to accommodate 10 different feline-personalities with limited friction -
    cats share space by time-sharing and using hiding, perching or bedding spaces to limit interaction;
    cats who dislike each other avoid one another by spending time in different spaces, up on a cat-tree, lounging on a sill,
    hunkering under a bed or sleeping on the back of a sofa, etc.

    the larger the group of cats, the more-likely it becomes that one or more cats will REALLY dislike one another -
    or one HATE and the other FEAR - and social-stress quickly mushrooms.
    even without overt fighting or obvious hostility, if U watch the cats carefully U can easily see which cats allogroom
    [grooming one another affectionately] and which NEVER allogroom, and who avoids whom -
    this one walks IN? that one walks OUT.

    cats can + will mark even if they are desexed, if they are highly territorial or highly stressed -
    but INTACT cats mark [as usual] :rolleyes: a *lot* more!
    ask the parents to consider desexing any intact cats, or if they breed, to house the intact-cats in EASY-clean
    separate areas from the general household - tile walls to 3-ft, seamless lino or sealed tile floors, etc.

    intact-M cats are generally highly-aggressive, much more so than Fs or desexed-Ms, and their very presence can distress
    shy or fearful or nervous cats, or kittens under 9-MO - all kittens are a bit spooky of adults other than their mum or co-mums
    [aunties, whether related or not] and will react to the presence of an adult-intact--M with more hiding, avoiding, slinking along
    the edges of rooms, etc.

    good luck, hun. :) the parents will have to help on this one -
    making sure boxes are clean, litter is changed, CAT-spray is removed with enzymes, etc.
    it is very possible, indeed probable, that the dogs leg-lifting is an overt-symptom of a feline-problem: too many kitties,
    too many conflicts putting feline-noses out of joint. :( the UV-check may shock them speechless, finding evidence of cat-pee
    in places that the dog has never even been, or cannot get to - like atop a china-cupboard, or summat. :blink:
    be prepared to be supportive, if they go into shock :eek: its been known to happen.

    JMO + IME; cheers,
    --- terry
     
  3. Sarah69

    Sarah69 PetForums Newbie

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    Is this a joke reply?

    All them litter trays for a few cats of course she dont have 11 litter boxes down omg!!

    Belly bands 4 dogs and a pnyt liner put inside wtf?? Out to potty wtf again!!
     
  4. tripod

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    That's polite...

    You asked for help and you got a very informed reply with excellent advice - you are new to this forum?
     
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    Sarah69 PetForums Newbie

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    I was looking 4 a serious answer!
     
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    Well you got one - perhaps its not the suggestion that's the problem but your perception and understanding of the issue described ;)

    What would you have preferred or at least what did you expect?
     
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    OK :huh: short and simple:
    insert a urinary-catheter on the dog, and have him wear a leg-bag. E-Z.
     
  9. CarolineH

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    You got one. Ok so if you are in the UK as most of us are, we don't have belly bands over here. I can see how they would be a temporary solution to occasional off-territory marking behaviour though.

    You want a quick fix solution? There isn't one, except to keep your dog on a lead and watch his every move. If he is an entire male dog then there will always be the risk that he will leg lift in other peoples properties.

    Yes, multi-cat owners should have at least one box per cat though many don't and that is often why their homes smell, because cats don't like sharing boxes so do sneaky pees elsewhere! Your dog is just trying to cover their scents with his own - but with cat pee he has NO chance I'm afraid. Won't stop him trying though! :D

    I love the catheter idea leashed! :p
     
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