Pinky's original thread here:- http://www.petforums.co.uk/small-an...987-2-male-rats-9-months-old-southampton.html Amber's original thread here:- http://www.petforums.co.uk/small-an...189037-more-female-rats-5-6-7-months-old.html Pinky particularly is a very special case, he has had limited interactions with people prior to coming to us and is most distrustful still. He is, though, accepting handling with a towel and is not far off allowing us to pick him up bare handed. With a lot of time and effort both these rats will make good pets. These guys may well benefit from being introduced to other more confident rats. New homes should be prepared to work with these guys and their remaining issues, and prepare for some nipping in the early stages. These rats have to go together.