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Luxating Patella

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by suze23, Oct 24, 2012.


  1. suze23

    suze23 PetForums Senior

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    Took my cocker spaniel to the vets today as he has been lame/stiff in his back legs for the past 3 days...

    I had suspected hip dysplasia to be honest... he sits like a frog, hops (our eldest dog has it so same signs :/ - totally unrelated breeds)!...vet suspects luxating patella - he squeeled when they manipulated his knees but didnt react much with his hips?

    The vet reccomends x-rays and possible surgery.. im (right now) avoiding the prospect of surgery as much as possible - so opting to hopefully get a referal and see an orthopedic specialist...just for x-rays and go from there?

    This is my agility dog!... he;s only 7 months old so obviously another 6 months before we even started training but I had high hopes for him as he is very intelligent and quick lad when he runs.... and small!...

    Anyone experience this issue in their dogs?

    Thanks
     
  2. Sled dog hotel

    Sled dog hotel PetForums VIP

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    Havent got a dog with it but I know a couple of dogs who have had it. Both had ops and were fine after.

    As far as Im aware there is different degrees of it, its graded 1 to 4, 1 being the least an 4 being the worse.

    Grade 1 will pop out when they manipulate it and then pop back in itself.
    Grade 2 will pop out when manipulated but wont pop back in again itself.
    Grade 3 will be out all the time and you can push it back but will come out again.
    Grade 4 will be out all the time and you cant push it back at all.

    Grade 3 and 4 need surgery, I think grade 2 they reccomend it as over time arthritis sets in and grade one I think can sometimes be left, depending I suppose whether it does it very ocassionally or does it a lot.

    I suppose they will have more of an idea once they have x rayed.
    If he had the lat two I would imagine he would be walking oddly.
     
  3. Chihuahua-Rocky

    Chihuahua-Rocky PetForums Senior

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    Hi,

    if I were you I would go to a specialst to get a second opition. My Chihuahua has LP since he is 1.5 years old (now he is 4). The vet told us he had grade 3-4 and would urgently need a surgery and x-ray as limping meant he was in pain. So we got the x-ray done which honestly was really unnecessary unless he really would have had surgery afterwards. X-rays are not too helpful as they place the legs the right way so during x-ray the knees will most likely be on their normal place anyways. X-ray is really only needed for surgery so they can check whether everything is "on the right place".
    I wasn't all keen about the surgery and thought I would see a specialist.
    He told me a whole different story. He told us the right grade (which is only a 1-2) and got us off the idea of a surgery as he said Rocky was in fact not in pain but limping is just very common in LP and even a surgery might not 100% stop the limping.

    I now feed him greenlipmussel extract as a supplement and have also fed him glucosamine before.

    So all I can really advice you is to go and see a specialist about it. Especially if the question of a surgery came up already.
     
  4. suze23

    suze23 PetForums Senior

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    Thanks both :)

    Ive have rung my vets back and asked to be reffered straight away to leahurst as ive been there with my last dog (who has hip dysplasia and was diagnosed there after 2 years of back and forth elsewhere)!

    He's fine running round like an idiot (currently is....)! on zoomies - only hurts when manipulated - yet walks like a hoppy frog ( in his "canter" gait).... and sits like a frog! hence why i figured hip dysplasia.... but we'll see

    now he's just stopped being an idiot, hes a little lamer on the back hind! so hoping leahurst will ring tomorow (however i will phone them anyhow as i want him x-rayed sooner rather than later)
     
  5. Chihuahua-Rocky

    Chihuahua-Rocky PetForums Senior

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    I am wondering a bit about the knee hurting him when being manipulated.
    Usually the specialist will just lift the leg up and down with one hand on his knee so he can feel the knee cap going in and out. This however shouldn't hurt your dog unless someone pushes out the knee cap on purpose (which would be a stupid thing to do and of course that would hurt). Or does it hurt him when trying to push the knee cap back in while being out?
    I'm a bit confused. Hopefully the specialist can straighten things out for you. Good luck! :)
     
  6. suze23

    suze23 PetForums Senior

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    Im confused too! i just know it hurt him when he was messing with his knees!

    he's a locum vet so no idea who he was at all... i will go see my specialist who ive dealt wth before and go from there... :)

    He had overdone it today after running round like an idiot!! going to ring the referal vets tomorow and try get him in next week if thats do-able! :)
     
  7. Emmastace

    Emmastace PetForums VIP

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    Never experienced this with one of my dogs but.........a friend has a 10 month old cockapoo that was being treated for LP. Symptoms started when she was 7 months and she was in discussion for an op and was treated right up to a fortnight ago. She went in to be spayed and they took a look while she was under and all turns out it was not LP at all. No evidence of that whatsoever. The best they can come up with is just the doggy equivalent of growing pains as she is fine. Worth a second opinion before thinking about surgery if it is this easy to get wrong.
     
  8. suze23

    suze23 PetForums Senior

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    Thanks ^

    hes been reffered today :) (i rung my vets) so will ring the referal tomorow to speed it up... and just go for x-rays and go from there :)


    hopefully just growing pains but will get a full set of x-rays :)
     
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