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Lovely staffs....if only people knew!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Oblada, Mar 16, 2009.


  1. Oblada

    Oblada Guest

    I agree with you haeveymolly !

    Staffs are the best and I hope my boy stays the softie he is now ;)
    They really have a special bond with people and particularly children! :)

    xx

    oh and SBT is one of the "pitt bull" types breeds..as pit bull is not a breed..the American Pitt Bull is a breed but not recognized here I think..in the article I put up they mention SBT for the great temperament and the relatively low biting power I think..its just one article among many, just picked any ;)...
    Not that is matters much all that!
     
  2. met a lovely staff this morning! Well sort of lol - I met his owner - shouting in vain for him to come out of the wood lol!

    He did finally appear with a 12foot long stick (well tree) being dragged along with him :D:D:D

    Such a beautiful friendly dog, and he looked very pleased with his prize - i dont suppose he could have found a smaller one!

    Billy thought he was great and they romped off into the wood together, all we could hear were crashes and rustles lol!
     
  3. sallyanne

    sallyanne Guest

    The Stafford is a distant cousin of the APBT,there is no evidence anywhere to indicate what biting power these two breeds have,the problem with both breeds is they do not quit,hence why it can be extremely difficult to break a fight between mature adults.

    As I mentioned I have two Staffords,they live in harmony with no problems,however I never ever leave them unattended together,as I know things can and do turn around very quickly.I know people that have made this mistake as their dogs have always got along fine,yet returned to find either a dead dog or two very badly injured ones.

    As you rightly pointed out fights should be avoided at all costs,which is why mine are seperated when I'm not around.

    As a responsible breeder and owner it would be irresponsible to fail to mention that the breed may not tolerate other dogs as they mature.Not all of them are like it though,I have an entire male who is 3 years old,he is fab,a super all round dog,loves people and kids.My bitch is the same loves people and kids but unfortunatly hates some dogs with a passion.I am very aware of this,hence she is not allowed offlead and we walk in areas where dogs should be onlead.
    Socialisation when young puppies is extremely important and should be maintained throughout the dogs life.

    I am proud to be a Stafford owner,people can say or think what they want about the breed,after 20 years of owning them,you develop a thick skin ;)

    Edited to add,Just out of curosity,how is your boy bred ?
     
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  4. Oblada

    Oblada Guest

    Sallyanne: What do you mean "how is my boy bred" ??

    Im lucky enough in my area there are plenty of good doggy areas and plenty of nice dog owners so Diego gets plenty of socialisation ;)

    xx
     
  5. princessx87

    princessx87 PetForums Senior

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    I have to agree, with both oblada, and sallyanne.

    I have a staffy, nearly 2 this year and we brought him as he was being mis-treated, So we got him at 3 months.

    We never had any problems from him intil a few weeks ago, When we was walking him on our local play field, Some woman had a greyhound x.

    She was completly stupid, She got to the field, let her dog off and watched it as it ran over to mine, and this greyhound just went crazy!
    At first my dog thought " playtime ", But this dog was having none of it intil they started fighting...!

    The owner of the greyhound just sat there reading a newspaper, while the two dogs was having a full- on fight, and whilst me, OH and 2 other dog owners husbands was trying to get them apart.

    After all this 10 mins later...:-

    I took this womens dog over to her, and asked her what was going on and why she sat there, Her reply was..

    Dont blame my dog, sweetheart, Or it wont just be the 2 dogs fightin!
    CHEEK!

    Sometimes, there is right and wrong with the owners, sallyanne, is right to the fact of, i would not want another dog running at me full on whilst my staffy is doing his business, But oblada is also right of the fact staffys are easier to blame, and get insults.

    Since that day i can no longer let my boy off the lead, as every big dog he see's now he fills is a threat, and wants to fight!
     
  6. frags

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    i very much agree with this haeveymolly!!! i only moved to my new area in december and it seems everyone here has a staff and nearly all have leather harness and studed collars
    freddie wears a material fleece harness and a woven collar nothing leather or studed.
    not sure about others areas but here theyre known as a "chavs dog" and im far from chav lol
    i can see alot of youngsters walking around with there trophy dogs like its a symbol of how hard they are etc and its sad cos the SBT are such softies and these people really dont realise how stupid they look half the time.
    i go to a sunday market sometimes and its full of big burly blokes walking there studded collared staffys as if there hard and it winds me up how the poor dogs used against someones image.
     
  7. princessx87

    princessx87 PetForums Senior

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    Lol i think thats pretty much every, where i used to live in south-london and there is loads like that, And yet there is more collar then meat on some of there dogs, so what does that prove?
     
  8. sallyanne

    sallyanne Guest

    What his pedigree,Bloodlines ?


    Good to hear :)
     
  9. sallyanne

    sallyanne Guest

    Personally I hate to see the big thick studded collars and leads,and the harnesses.
    My bitch has a little thin red collar,with the stafford knot and head on it and red lead to match.
    Tyler has a rope slip lead. :)
     
  10. Oblada

    Oblada Guest

    Im totally with you on that one!! ;)

    My boy is a KC registered staff, 5 generations pedigree, with some champions in his bloodline on his father's side ;)
    Is that what you were asking for ? ;)

    xx
     
  11. sallyanne

    sallyanne Guest

    Lol,
    Some of the names of the dogs,

    For example my bitches pedigree can be seen on this link,you need to go down the page,
    SBT Pedigree

    I refer to her as been Valglo and Crashkon bred ;)

    My boy has quite a mixture,so I don't really refer to any particular lines, his pedigree can be seen on this link,
    SBT Pedigree
     
  12. Oblada

    Oblada Guest


    mmm....no idea how to present it for my boy to be honest ;)
    Looking at his certificate I can say he's got some Scarthwaite champions in, one Rendorn devil, one Hot pursuit (cool name!), one Master Jay and a bunch of unclassified with Anstaff in the name somewhere! roughly! :p
    His mum and dad are Celtic Cassius and Kenmillix Coquelicot, both unclassified.

    Sorry ur talking to someone completely ignorant on the pedigree thing ;) The only reason I insisted we got a KC registered dog was for some future trip to France where the igorance about SBT is widespread and the legislation as idiotic as here... didnt want him to be considered "pit bull type" which is would most likely be if he couldnt prove to be an exempted breed like SBT.

    xx


    Hey I found some of his ancestors through that website ; http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=10523
    http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=479
    Fun! :p
     
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  13. haeveymolly

    haeveymolly PetForums VIP

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    And good for you,why make them stand out for the wrong reasons, sending out wrong messages, it is not fair on the dog, the breed and the responsible "normal" staffie owners.
     
  14. riffraffdeefer

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    I used to think it was hard to break up a staff fighting.
    My mates 2 staffs latched on to my rottie reggie today and to be honest a staff is a good fighter for its size but reggie seriously hurt the blue staff putting several cuts on his head and back, and the other staff was latched on as reggie was fighting te other staff and he didint even have a cut on him.
    In my opinion and i have owned staffs and still have 4 in my family staffs are hyped up to be alot more powerful then what they are.
    The reason for this is that the police and public would raver have yobs going around with staffs then more powerful dogs like rotties dobies etc
    This is just my opinion others may have different views.
    A staff has not got a "powerful jaw" it is the same as any other dog breed
    In a comparison the rottweiler came out on top with 328lb jaw pressue with the german sheperd 2nd at 238lb and the pitbull 3rd with 235lb.
    The staff is my favourite breed by far but they are no more powerful then other breeds
     
  15. sallyanne

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    Could you point me in the direction of the source of your information,as I have looked into biting power of various breeds and as yet there is no scientific evidence to substantiate the claims you are making.
     
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    The majority of Staffs around here are owned by idiots and behave in the way the press portrays them - recently a dog was attacked by a Staff who's owner was riding a motorbike across the field where kids were playing and dog owners were trying to have a peaceful walk.

    I must admit whenever I see a SBT now I walk in the opposite direction after a spate of attacks recently. Maybe a well bred, dog-friendly, SBT owned by a sensible owner exists in South Yorkshire, but I am still to be convinced:mad:

    A lot of the chocolate Labs around here have dodgy temperaments (mainly from a local big breeder/puppy farm), but seeing the damage inflicted by a SBT on the dog mentioned above, I am more wary about a loose SBT running over to my dogs than a Labrador.

    I would love to see a law brought in that states that if any dog fails a regular temperament test, both it and its owner must be neutered....I bet we would see a lot less badly behaved dogs then:)
     
  18. benjaminash1

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    When i got my staff (rescued) she came with big chain lead and fat studded coller. They went in the bin and she now sports a new camo lead and coller combo. Camo cause she's my new fishing companion. When i walk her i do get bad looks but anybody who stops to say hello to her usually gets licked and an upside down dog with a belly that wants stroking.

    If she's off the lead playing fetch i always put her on the lead if i see anyone or dog. It's polite and can introduce dogs to each other under control. Its just commen sense.
     
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