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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Tom3000, Feb 3, 2021.


  1. Tom3000

    Tom3000 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi everyone I hope you don't mind me asking this on here but I feel its the best way to get accurate feedback from pet owners.
    We run a business which we mainly specialise in DIY & Garden products however a large customer of ours has asked us to do them a pet range starting with a lead.
    We have basically gone out and made a multipurpose lead. I own dogs and have tested it and it works well.

    however

    I am trying to get some honest feedback from pet owners if the lead is something you would buy?
    It will retail for around £20.00
    Will be available in Blue, Black or Red (which colour would you most likely buy or do you think we should do a different colour)

    I wanted to put the link to the video but I don't think its allowed

    Any advice would be appreciated
     
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    It's a reasonable idea, but personally I wouldn't use one.
    There are many 'Flexi' brand knock offs out there that are very prone to failure/breaking which make them very dangerous.

    Is your lead a one size fits all, or come in different sizes and strength ratings?
    Because of course dogs vary wildly in size. Something like this that suits a chihuahua is going to be nigh on useless for a german shepherd, for example.
    The bowl too is a cute idea but size may make it impractical for many breeds

    Does it have a traffic handle or similar at the end near the clip?
    Its extremely important to be able to get closer control of the dog in any situation, especially when they have a long length of lead to run around on.

    I assume the lead is lockable at whatever length the owner chooses, again for safety.

    Having four dogs, this certainly wouldnt be my choice of every day lead (so I'm probably not your target audience anyways!), but I would be absolutely wary of quality, with special focus on the clip which attaches to the dog, the extending mechanism and the plastic frame as a whole.


    I think personally I'd prefer something that attaches to an existing lead, rather than have it as an all in one extending lead kit.
     
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    Tom3000 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi Blue Jay

    We have engineered it out of polypropylene so it durable. When we researched the top leads were made from this also.
    The lead can restrain a pulling force of up to 60kg so it’s designed for medium to large dogs.

    yes you can lock it at various lengths.

    when you say the clip you mean the metal clip that clicks to the collar?

    the bowl is small we couldn’t make it much bigger. But you could use it for food also

    thanks for your honest advice
     
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    I think it looks great. Not something I would use as my dogs are rarely on leads but I can see this would be popular with some dog owners as it has alot of useful stuff.
     
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    Thanks Cleo it’s good to hear
     
  8. tabelmabel

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    I think that would sell really well!

    I personally wouldnt use the bag holder bit as it looks fiddly, especially for cold hands.

    The only other point is that the main handle looks very wide and chunky; again that has to be comfortable to hold for small hands.


    I do like the treat holder function which could come in handy when walking.

    For training, i prefer to have a quick snap shut waist pouch so that i can get to the treats very quickly though.

    Torch again good as long as batteries an easy replace. And bulb.



    Generally though - looks great:)
     
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  9. Tom3000

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    Thanks Tabel Mabel

    the handle actually I find smallish but I am quite tall and have large hands.
    Interesting with the poop bags as we thought people would like that feature the best

    Which colour do you think is the best option?
     
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    I really not keen on these type of leads, I did use a Flexi-lead for off road walks occasionally, but I prefer a doubled ended training lead.

    I think it looks very bulky and the water bowl would only be for a smallish dog.

    But for people who like Flexi-leads it might be OK.
     
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    I don't use a flexi as our dog Luna is very strong and I always worry about it snapping (in general not your product). However I think it looks great and if we had a dog who we used a flexi for I would definitely consider it. I think the torch is a really good idea. Poop bag dispenser is good though I usually have a handful in my pocket! Luna isn't interested in treats when on walks at all despite being like a shadow when at home at the slight chance of a tasty morsal! I think the treat dispenser/holder is really handy. I also like the water bowl. I know it isn't large but we have a small collapsible one that we pop in the car for after long walks or hot days. Luna can easily drink from it. Your bowl is handy as it is all attached.
    If I was into Flexi leads and was buying one I would go for red as Luna's collar is red so it is 'her colour' as our daughter would say or maybe black.
     
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    I couldn't use this, for the same reason I can't use any flexi type lead
    I have arthritis, neuropathy and Renaud's syndrome, in my hands and fingers, as well as elsewhere
    meaning they're all to weighty, the handle is to bulky, and they're unwieldy, yours reminds me of a 60's ray gun to be honest
    I use a walking belt with normal leads for road walking and swap them to long lines for more 'roomy' walks,
    that way my whole bodyweight is behind them dashing here there and everywhere. The lead is never going to slip from my hands, due to a lapse in my dexterity,
    I wear a head light in the dark evenings and mornings, poo bag holder is attached to walking belt, as is treat bag

    Out of interest what is the price point you are looking to market it at?
    As had been said above there's a 101 different flex-a-likes starting at £1,(Poundland with torch and 20 poo bags in a poo bag holder on a clip underneath) going up to the big true flexis at £50+
    So your trying to break into quite a saturated market already
     
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    I use an 8 meter "giant" flexi that was roughly the same price.
    And I use a bag for treats, poo bags and water bowl.

    I dont use a torch.

    Is the actual lead a string or a tape (round or flat?)

    And is the lead visible from a distance?

    I like to know when a dog is off lead as opposed to on a flexi lead and sometimes it's near impossible to see the actual string of flexi leads.

    The one I use is neon yellow so people know she is on a lead.
     
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    Yes i currently use Flexi giant 10m which is black housing with neon tape.


    You might want to put out a more funky colour like orange housing to make it stand out from flexi.


    I like the neon tape so it is visible to others too.


    Eta i think 20 quid is reasonable. Flexi 10m is 40 to 50 quid
     
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    Completely missed that
    Thank you
     
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    I think it's a fantastic design. I used to work as a dog walker and there were a few stressful occasions that torch would have been a godsend (getting lost on Hampstead Heath at dusk!). Being realistic I imagine many people are used to just shoving bits into their pockets, but it would also make a great gift.

    One thing I couldn't quite tell from the video was the thickness of the lead. I used to hate the really thin flexi-leads (string width), they were a liability so a thicker/flatter one would be preferable.
     
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    I use a flexi comfort long (8 metre) lead, with an old and deaf dog it has become invaluable. Whereas most walks were off lead now all walks are on lead.

    For me, the handle section looks very chunky, is that due to having the poop bags roll in there? I wouldn't need that section as I carry nappy sacks.

    The other main thing that I like about my current Flexi and what has stopped me replacing it so far is I like having a soft grip on the handle, gives a bit of grip in cold weather and just generally more comfy in my hands.
     
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    I think this is a great idea. I use an 8metre Flexi daily on my 10kg terrier we go away a lot for weekends so having a torch and poo bag dispenser would be fab. I would probably use the treat container aswell.
    The only thing I would worry about is safety and durability but guess that can be proven with sharing weight and material testing etc.
     
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    I think its suitable for small to med dogs. I liked the torch part. I think its would be useful for when you take your dog on holiday.
    I think it would be too cumbersome for me but my OH liked the black one. Its a bit above my price range but its not too expensive compared to ordinary retracting ones.
     
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    It’s a really nice idea. I have a Labrador so she’s a bit big for a flexi lead, but I agree with @kimthecat - great idea for holidays and also for evening walks.
     
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