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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by rona, Jul 30, 2009.


  1. rona

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    As several members know my boy had cruciate strain last October and I have been making every effort to get him as right as possible.
    Well I have another dilemma with him.
    All dogs in my opinion live for today, they don't think about the consequences that their actions may impact on them later in life.
    Well my boy has got to the stage where he wants to live a little and chase a few bunnies.
    He has got osteoarthritis in the effected joint but does not limp and has very little stiffness after rest. Most people wouldn't even be able to see that his movement is a fraction clipped. though the joint does swell a little.
    He is coming up for 8 in a couple of months.
    He has been under close control for months now, with the occasional mishap.
    The last couple of weeks I have been letting him run, with hardly any sign of problems.
    I know it is going to make the arthritis worse quicker because of this but he gets depressed when not allowed to be himself.
    I either have a happy dog that maybe has problems earlier or a bored dog that can walk for a little longer.
    What would you do?
     
  2. dobermummy

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    It is such a hard place for you to be in. I personally would let him have a bit of a run around. I would let him be happy while he can because you never know what is going to happen in the future.

    When my dobie had his op on his cruciate ligament we had to think about it all and in the end we decided to let him have the op because he was so bad. Now you would never know.

    I think what ever you do for your boy it is because you love him and what what is best and he knows that.
     
  3. Patterdale_lover

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    I know it is hard decision to make and i feel for you.
    But i wouls say let him live life to the full! Because every dog deserves to chase bunnies after all :)
     
  4. Badger's Mum

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    I think you've made up your mind already;):D
     
  5. PennyH

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    Our spaniel has luxating patellas in both back legs. We have taken the decision to (within reason) let her run about as much as she wants. We do ensure she rests more than the rest of our dogs, and we do try and limit the amount of jumping up that she does, but as others have said you never know what is round the corner.
    I would rather give her a short but happy life if that is what it takes than keep her cooped up and not let her be a dog, and then who knows what could happen to her in later life.
    I am glad we have taken this view cos she is about to undergo tests for an eyesight problem - so who knows what will happen. Maybe she won't be able to run about for very much longer and she is only 2 years old.
    My advice is to let your dog be a dog (within reason obviously!)
    Good luck.
     
  6. Badger's Mum

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    So sorry to hear about your dog, I've got a springer so i no what you mean:)
     
  7. rona

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    Yes but the guilt will kick in later when he's crippled.
    Just wanted other peoples views, it helps with the worry
     
  8. sequeena

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    You're a lovely woman Rona, it must be so hard for you.

    I think what you're doing is right. What's the point of living when you can't enjoy yourself?
     
  9. rona

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    :blushing::blushing::blushing:
    Thank you :blushing:
     
  10. sequeena

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    You are more than welcome. It's obvious you love your boy and in my eyes the cruelest thing you could do is not let him be a dog, so well done you.

    I understand you will feel guilty but you will have to remember the good times and know that you did what was best for him :)
     
  11. Nonnie

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    Quality over quantity i say.

    Better a short life full of things they love and enjoy, than a longer one thats rather mundane.

    The way i exercise Oscar will shorten his life, he may even drop dead because of his heart, but he's happy and thats what matters. Id rather him die doing something, or the result of, something he loves.
     
  12. Badger's Mum

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    to be honest i think the same as me your feel guilty either way and the end of the day your boy's your boy. I'd like to think i'd do that for Ben, Wouldn't with Misty although she love's coming out. I no she'd be just as happy snuggled up indoor's as long as she had fuss and food. But it would do my boy's head in.
     
  13. rona

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    I've got to go out now and he will want to come with me, he's always up and ready to go.
    I do have to make sure he only get 4-5 hours a day though ;);)
     
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    rona, when we brought Ben our first GSD, he developed paroviris at a year old, this despite being immunised.

    The vet informed us during his recovery, that he had severe hip displacement, yet no x-rays were taken. He also stated that Ben should start pain relief , this despite no sign of discomfort!

    We moved vets and they requested x-rays and were astonished when we explained that none were taken. The vet did say that he agreed that Ben's hips were not good, but was adamant that pain relief should not be given if a dog was showing no sign of discomfort, which Ben did not.

    We were referred to a homeopathic vet who Suggested a short course of Rhus Tox. Ben lived almost to see his 11th birthday, without any pain control. In his later years he was x-rayed, and his hips were found to be some of worse seen by the Specialist. When Ben showed signs of pain, he had a weeks course of these pills and was as right as rain.

    I know this is not the same as your dog, but its worth knowing. Ben would run and play with the best of them, and enjoyed a full and happy life. It was actually gastric torsion that killed him in the end.

    Go with your instinct :)
     
  15. Fleur

    Fleur Vassal to Lilly and Ludo

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    As everyone has already says.
    It's more than obvious that you love Alfie and will on;y do what you think is best.
    I think as Nonnie says 'Quality over quantity'
     
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    what an awful thing to be going through.

    when our rottie was young he was diagnosed with hip dyspacia in both sides and elbow dysplacia on one side and we decided from then that apart from keep the weight off him and not walk him up and down the hills too often, which he does enjoy, we would leave him as he is happiest, running around like a loon. he doesnt suffer with it much now, 6 years on only the occassional limp and only usually after he has been over the hills for a walk.

    i think sometimes you have to do something you know isnt right for you to make someone else happier. is he on pain medication?? if he is and you want him to calm down a little you could reduce the dosage just enough so that when he does over do it it will hurt and he might hopefully calm down before going to far. if he isnt in any pain at all he may become too ambitious in his activities.
     
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    I can't remember if I told you that Indie had ruptured her cruciate at 18 months of age? I had a helluva time getting her treated initially, and she ended up having to have a follow up op to repair a meniscus pad on the same joint.

    Anyway, she's fairly well healed up now, but she will never have the same muscles on the left hand side, as the right hand side. I walk her each and every day, three times, with limited formal exercise/training, but she's free to run, and she loves it.

    I keep her lean and fit, and give her a good diet to try and help minimise any potential wear and tear in that respect. But I firmly believe it's a balance, if I didn't keep her exercise up to a certain level, she wouldn't have good enough muscle mass; she's not ever stiff getting up after a rest now, which she was for a while. She will be four years old at the end of August, and I hope to keep her lean and fit and going for as much of her long, long life as possible.

    Most of all, I always ensure I exercise those cuddle muscles properly, and funnily enough, she does give the best cuddles ever for a chocolate Labrador ;):):)
     
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  18. rona

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  19. mr.stitches

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    My dear friend....I wish you would not worry so much, its not good for you


    However, I know how you are thinking...I would want Pippin to be happy. She hates it if she cant even go in the garden for a play, so to not walk and frolic would make her so unappy. Walks and sniffs are what dogs live for :D


    If it were me who was unwell, I would like to enjoy myself while I could. Otherwise I would only be sat at home feeling sad.

    Only you know how your Alf is....and you love him dearly so will always do the best thing for him x
     
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  20. JSR

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    Only just seen this and what a lovely post! You are so 100% right Rona. :D

    My Cooper came to me with the full knowledge his hips were knackered (he was hit by a car when roaming from his original 'owners' :(). The rescue told me would likely last a couple of years before a decision would need to be made. 4 years on and after 2 years of cartrophen injections and daily rimydl...he's now just on a splash of cod liver oil in his meals and he's perfectly happy and pain free!!! He can now get out of his bed in the evenings where as before I would have to help him up, and he enjoys life to the full. Okay he has quiet moments where he potters behind me but considering we expected him to be long gone I can't ask for more.

    As you know Rona Cromwell is failing but he's only missed 1 walk so far and the old sod isn't giving up without a fight and while he's fighting you can be damn sure I'm right beside him. I will not mollycoddle him and make him miserable by making him stay at home while the others go out, if I shorted his life by allowing him the pleasure of his walks then so be it. ;)

    Dogs do live in the moment and we should learn from them. Lifes too short to keep worrying about what may be, Alfie wouldn't thank you for trying to extend a life without sniffs and romps. ;)
     
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