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Lilli the recue shih tzu struggling to adapt.

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by wiley80, Apr 28, 2011.


  1. wiley80

    wiley80 Guest

    well.....I'm really struggling with the fact that Lilli isn't coping very well tonight with being around other dogs (her mum and dad).
    She is attacking them constantly...she has obviously not been socialised and it has been an hectic day for her,but we don't know how to deal with her...she has been put in the conservatry on her own for now,as we don't know what else to do....she has just bitten the breeders (kathy's hand) and drawn blood...she seem to have a lot of emotional problems...this really saddens me after what we have been through today...any advice welcome :(
     
  2. Mese

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    Im far from being an expert but my opinion is to give her some space for a day or so , away from the other dogs , then slowly introduce them once she's less anxious

    If she still shows aggressive tendancies id say to rehome her with someone knowledgeable about this breed & problem dogs , and who doesnt have any other dogs

    Oh .... and go smack the original owner for being such an a** and making Lilli the way she is :(
     
  3. Helbo

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    As I said on the other thread - she's been through a lot.

    Unfortunately I don't have any advice for you on how to tackle the behaviour problems. Nothing has to be decided tonight - get some sleep, and see how she is in the morning. And you both can think through the situation with clear heads.
     
  4. wiley80

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    yes i agree,we are gonna get some sleep and see how things are in the morning...there is noway she will be rehomed tho...only to me!
    She has been through too much...i know she has potential and we will work on it between us...we may need a little help from you guy's tho :D
     
  5. lucysnewmum

    lucysnewmum PetForums Senior

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    i have fostered many unsocialised, fearful aggressive dogs and successfully turned them round to be calm, loyal companions for their new owners.

    it isnt easy and takes time and patience.

    i would suggest that as she is demonstrating fearful aggression...keep her separate from the other dogs with the use of a baby gate at linking doorways so that she can see what is happening but not get to the other dogs to attack them.

    step by step and very slowly encourage the dogs to meet at the babygate...offering them all treats is a good way... make sure you give your dogs the treats first...then lexi last...to show her that she has final place in the family set up but also that it is a good thing to be with the other dogs.

    when it is walk time....put the two older dogs on their leads first,,,,lilli last.
    she must follow the two older dogs and yourself so you will need help with this. this method reinforces her place in the family.

    once in an open space you can gradually bring the dogs closer together until they are comfortable walking side by side....any growling, snarling, snapping or lunging and the dog must be distracted, removed from the area and reintroduced once calm again. start with some distance between the two older dogs and lexi by walking past each other and gradually bring lilli in nearer and nearer until you can all walk side by side without any reaction from her.

    you should also practise sit, down, stay, with all three dogs on leads and treat for every compliance so that she gets used to focusing on you and not the other dogs. once she can perform all three,,,then move on to teaching leave it which once learnt you will find useful if she does kick off again.

    make sure only good things happen when lexi is with the other dogs by never telling her off when she goes berserk,,,but just gently correct her, remove her from the other dogs until calm, and then reintroduce,,,rewarding for not reacting to them.

    this dog will need lots of time and patience but with practise it is possible to overcome her fears and lack of social skills.
     
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    She has been through a lot, Bless xx
     
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    How are things this morning?
     
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    Poor lilli has been through a lot. :( how's things this morning?
     
  9. momentofmadness

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    Sometimes when Bitches are pregnant their hormones kick in and they can go a little stir crazy with other dogs.. Needing that bit of extra space... Add this to the fact she obviously has had a rough time and i think giving her the space she needs is the best way forward..

    Good luck with her.. You may find she doesn't want to integrate till she has had the pups and they are a few weeks old.. :)
     
  10. Freyja

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    Hoe is she today?

    Give here time it is all strange to her. Also if she is pregnant she may not want strange dogs around her


    We currently have 2 foster whippets they came to us on tuesday night and as off yet the only ones off mine they have met are the iggies and even then they are crated when the iggies are in the room. They are beggining to settle down now and we can walk past the cat with out them thinking they have to eat it and we are getting better when we see dogs out on walks. We are waithing for a while before they meet the rest of my dogs as at the moment I think it would be too much for them to cope with.
     
  11. wiley80

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    Hi...well i've been to see Lilli and there is no change in her at all today,she is turning more agressive towards people now :(
    I guess she didnt like the fact that we were removing ticks one after the other and she bit my face :eek:
    I spent 2 1/2 hours in A & E getting 3 stitches and a tetanus jab :rolleyes:
    Anyway i think all we can do is leave her well alone for now and see what happens over the next few days.
    I really hope she will be ok once she's settled,she really didnt seem agressive at all while i had her :confused:
     
  12. BeagleOesx

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    Aww poor Lilli, hopefully she'll settle down soon and it's been the turmoil over the past few days which have made her aggressive. What was she like with your dog?

    Fingers crossed she does get better tempered, will keep checking for your updates on her.
     
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    :eek: Are you ok? could she be sedated and have the vet remove the ticks? She sounds like shes had such a terrible start I just hope she can pull herself round and become a safe dog or I really dont know what your other options are, have you contacted breed rescue and is her breeder still helping you?
     
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    Oh i hope she settles down.
    Poor thing it must be very stressfull for her and you.
     
  15. lucysnewmum

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    the fact that the aggression is escalating is really worrying...

    nip along to pets at home or your nearest pet shop and get a Dap diffuser (similar to a plug in air freshner...but it gives off pheromones which only the dogs can smell....) plug it in somewhere close to her sleeping quarters to help calm her.

    avoid handling her as much as possible....muzzle her to remove ticks. do not take any chances.

    fair play to you for being determined to help her and sort her out but please put your own safety first and seek professional help from a reputable behaviourist if things get any worse.
     
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