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Let's just kill them!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Johnderondon, May 14, 2010.


  1. Johnderondon

    Johnderondon PetForums VIP

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    The Metropolitan Police, in their zeal to protect the public from the scourge of dangerous looking dogs, have 490+ seized dogs in kennels awaiting trail (bear in mind that only 28 of these dogs have actually behaved dangerously). Now they're whingeing about the costs and have hit upon a marvellous idea for reducing their bill.

    Article: BBC News - Met urged to destroy dangerous dogs to save money

    Six minute debate with DDAWatch and Lord Harris from the Met. Police Authority BBC News - Today - Weapon dogs 'kept at public expense'



    Edit to add:

    Please write to our new Home Secretary and ask her to oppose this heartless policy. Sample letter to use/amend as you like is below:

    Contact details here: http://www.tmay.co.uk/contact
     
    #1 Johnderondon, May 14, 2010
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  2. Fleur

    Fleur Vassal to Lilly and Ludo

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    I can't believe what she says
    She's acknowledging they are pets - but wants them destroyed anyway.

    These laws need seriously reviewing - surely the government would want to safe millions, changing the law they will do this with out killing family pets.
     
  3. SpringerHusky

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    That's disgusting :scared: :mad:
     
  4. Blitz

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    It is a difficult one. The dogs that are definitely illegal are going to be put down at some stage anyway and why should the taxpayer pay to keep them for all that time while it goes through the legal process. At the same time they tend to grab a lot of totally innocent cross breeds and if they were put down it would be criminal.
    This is not something new, it has been happening ever since the DDA came into force. Dogs have even been taken from cars as apparently your car counts as a public place.
    Sadly, if you have an unregistered staffie or a cross breed with bull features you are at high risk of losing your dog - yet more and more are being bred and largely ending up in rescue kennels.
    Basically the law has not worked in the way it should have done and is being policed by individuals that do not understand dogs.
     
  5. Tigerneko

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    I think it would be absoloutely fantastic if we could destroy that fecking woman
     
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    An illegal breed can be put on the exemption register and returned to the owner with restrictions, so killing them isn't inevitable.

    It's a shame the radio article was so short and don't think she had fair airtime.
     
  7. LostGirl

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    well what a delightful lady she is Not!
     
  8. Johnderondon

    Johnderondon PetForums VIP

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    That's disgusting. They're acknowledging they're pets not evil "status" dogs and are still going to shoot them :mad:.
     
  10. Blitz

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    of course it can, but those that are an illegal breed are supposed to be neutered and muzzled and registered - their owners know that so are not keeping them responsibly so they should not be returned.

    BUT very many of the dogs in the kennels will not be an illegal breed but a cross with bull breed characteristics who have been wrongly seized. It should be fairly easy to prove that they are not illegal and they should never have been taken. Provided the dog has not attacked anyone (in which case its breed is irrelevant) why can they not be left with their owners while the case is investigated.

    The idea behind the DDA is a good one but it has never been thought out properly or policed sensibly.
     
  11. Arlani

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    Amen to that!!!! :mad:
     
  12. dodigna

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    It' s a terrifying thing to be afraid to walk your dogs in busy areas and in the middle of the day in case some macho policeman/woman decides they are breed expert, want to get some target met for the month and decide to seize your dog to be checked over, brought to a stranger, in a foreign place, handled while stressed and confused, probably and very likely badly handled while stressed and confused, then dumped in a kennel with poor condition, not to be walked for months or at the very least weeks, ignoring special diets, ignoring medications, ignoring the dog! Welcome to the life a bull mix owner :(

    The sooner they address this joke of a law the better.
    Miss Pendry should also consider the feeling of the many family whose dogs have already been destroyed by police clerical errors or for being kept poorly or for being wrongly labeled before coming up with silly statements like that.

    And why are they paying that much for much for each kenneled dog, why not address the kennel owners that are enriching themselves with tax payers' money instead. The police authorities ought to shop around a bit more since they bring so much business to kennels.
     
  13. LadyLoraella

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    I hate hate hate people like this.
     
  14. Fleur

    Fleur Vassal to Lilly and Ludo

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    Well what an evil women to say that, she should not be working with dogs if she thinks they should be killed just because of how they look.

    The whole law to do with dogs as far as im concered is a load of s***, its the person at the end of the lead at the end of the day that has made the dog the way it is and has not controlled it.

    I think its discrimination and a form of racism to label a dog because of how it looks, grrrrrr makes me so mad.
     
  16. Snoringbear

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    You can't voluntarily have a dog put on the exemption list. This can only happen if the dog is seized or for some insane reason you volunteer your dog. Many people probably own dogs that could be deemed as type but don't even realise it as it is quite broad.

    They aren't looking so much for a breed but a type. An animal only has fulfill 70% of the old ADBA APBT standard to be deemed pitbull or pitbull type which has no reference to ears, colour, height or weight. So it is not that easy to prove at all and puts bullbreed crosses seized in a very dangerous position.

    You support BSL?
     
  17. Johnderondon

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    Nah. Only those on the exemption register. There is no legal cost or benefit to leashing and/or muzzling an unregistered dog.
     
  18. Johnderondon

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    >60% is enough
     
  19. Snoringbear

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    Has it changed? I thought they had to score 70 out of the 100 marks available.
     
  20. Starlite

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    my thoughts exactly :thumbup:
     
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