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Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by meg2, Sep 28, 2013.


  1. meg2

    meg2 PetForums Junior

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    hi we are getting a kitten next week but it's only 6 weeks old, i am worried that this is to young for her to leave mum, also the kittens are full of flea's which he's not treating, has anyone used diatom on a kitten to rid them of flea's, as this is natural and does not contain chemicals i thought this would be the safest way to go. any advice would be welcomed.
     
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    Jenny1966 PetForums VIP

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    Might seem like a silly question but why the hell are you even contemplating getting a 6 week old kitten and that you know is full of fleas??



    My advice ........ walk away now!
     
  3. Paddypaws

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    You absolutely desperately need to get the fleas treated and soon, otherwise there is a real risk that the kittens will die from anaemia.
    I don't think Diatom is going to be strong enough at this stage.....I will wait for the breeders with experience to give specific advice, but I think Mum needs a spot on treatment such as Advantage, and the kits need to be treated with Frontline spray which only the vet can administer.
    This really is quite urgent....is there any way you can foster the whole family or get them to a vet?
     
  4. cats galore

    cats galore PetForums VIP

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    i took a litter of 3 week old kittens in recently who were so infested with fleas that they were anemic. they needed blood transfusions but were too tiny to have them. every single kitten died due to having these fleas. the best thing you can get is frontline spray from the vets as you need to kill the fleas quickly if they are going to survive. a sign of anemia is white nose, gums, pads etc. good luck with your kitten. like you say it is very young but if they are left where they are and not treated their chances of survival will be small i would think. please let us know how you get on
     
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    cats galore PetForums VIP

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    i understand what you are saying but i personally couldn't walk away from these. i would have to take them out of that situation and help them. if i hadn't taken flossy, her kittens would have been dead now just like faith and her siblings:(
     
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    Neverr heard of Diatom, but I would say frontline definitely, what about poor mum, and the other kittens,as suggested could you foster them at all, I did this a few weeks back and 2 very tinies had to be syringe fed, but used frontline on them all,
    All rehomed now, and it wasn't hard to get them rehomed, so if you could help the others,or know anyone who could,it would be lovely,
    Yes 6 weeks is too young really, but in this situation the best thing
     
  7. meg2

    meg2 PetForums Junior

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    i have rang him today and asked for him to take them to the vets to rid them of the flea's, but he seems reluctant to do this.
    i can't walk away and leave them they will definitely die.
    i was going to suggest that he keeps her a little longer with mum, but after reading your comments i am now really worried that they could die.
    i will ring my vets and make an appointment to arrange for them to de-flea her when i get her next week.
     
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    Lets hope the OP is as knowledgeable as you are. I personally couldn't take on the responsibility, and watching what you went through makes me even more sure I just couldn't do it.

    I hope someone can make the OP understand just how hard this will be :(
     
  9. cats galore

    cats galore PetForums VIP

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    You're right, it was the most difficult and upsetting thing i've ever been through with animals and I wouldn't want anyone to take this on without realising that the outcome could be horrible. I learnt a lot of what I know on this forum and if the op decided to take these kittens and hopefully mom too, I think there are lots here that will help them all the way- but nothing can stop the hurt if the worst happens
     
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    I couldn't leave the ones I took home in the situation they were in either, there were 2 different litters, or maybe even 3, they were all different sizes, and the 2 tiny ones I thought were going to die, one of them just flopped to one side legs curled up, so heartbreaking to see, and yes it was very stressfull, as I had kittens of my own too,and I have never known kittens so quiet, they didn't make a sound for almost 2 days, just quietly,
    After a few days they were playing ,using a litter tray and running to meet me when I went into the room they were in,[there were 8 in all]
    When they were wormed and deflead, etc, and ready to go, [some before others] it was so satisfying to see the change, and happy kittens found new lovely new homes,and I would do it again if I had to
     
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    All I'm saying is that I wouldn't 'choose' to take this kitten on.

    Of course sometimes kittens fall into your lap and you have no choice :)


    I will leave this thread now and leave it to the people that know what they are talking about!
     
  12. lostbear

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    I'd be the same. Ideally, a kitten would be with mammy for at least 10-12 weeks, but if the owner of the mother wants rid, better that the poor little things go to someone who is prepared to take care of them and has had the nous to ask for some advice.

    Meg2 - I'm sure that your vet will check your kitten over, and will be able to advise you how best to look after her. Just give her lost of love and cuddles and be patient with her as she learns. I'm sure she'll be a joy to you when she's settled and de-flea'd
     
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    Please don't leave the thread. You have valuble things to say. You are right saying the op may be best walking away. It can be very difficult and very expensive with vet bills etc. some people may not be able to deal with that so it is good for the op to hear different views :)
     
  14. meg2

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    i have rang the vets and i have flea spray for the kitten and some pancure which is a paste, i will have to weigh her first so i will know how much to give her.
    i rang the bloke again about the flea situation and explained how dangerous it is for kittens and that they can become anemic and die if not treated, anyway he said that he has to see the vets on another problem and will mention about the flea problem with the kittens, if he does, i will leave her their for another week.
    i am worried that he might say they have been de flea and they have not, i am just torn on what to do, i want her to stay with mum as long as possible, but with the flea problem i am not sure if i should leave her there.
     
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    Hiya meg, welcome to the forum.

    I'm assuming you must have bought a small bottle of frontline spray which is for cats and kittens aged from 2 days?

    If that's the case I'd just use your own spray to flea mum and all her kittens and then take the bottle back when you take the kitten home.

    You'll still have enough left to do your kitten a few more times. Then buy spot on flea treatments for him when it's all used.
     
  16. meg2

    meg2 PetForums Junior

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    i thought of doing that, i will ring him Thursday and find out if he's done anything about the flea situation, if he has i will leave the little one another week if he doesn't mind. she would be better with mum for a little longer. but i am more than happy to de flea the others. thank you all for your advice, it's been a few years since i have kept cats, you forget how small and vulnerable they are.
     
  17. muffin789

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    Can I ask why the kittens need to leave mum so young? If I understand things right, they should be with mum for 12 weeks or so to get as much benefit as possible from the things she'll teach them, like socialising and litter training etc.

    From the little info we've got this sounds v much like a BYB, and I'd hate to think that someone was funding a BYB so that more kittens could end up with the same/similar problems. And isn't Frontline pretty much outdated now? I'm sure I've read on here that fleas have built up an immunity to it and you need to use other things like Advocate or Advantage (providing they are safe for use on small kittens).

    It's good to hear that the OP wants the kittens health-checked, but my radar is twitching for some reason. OP, are you planning on paying for these kittens? How much is the breeder asking?? I have a very uncomfy feeling about this, and at the mo I'm not sure why.
     
  18. meg2

    meg2 PetForums Junior

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    he's asking £25. he said its the second litter and it will be the last as she has given birth to 8 kittens this time. 4 last time.
    i have Effipro for the flea's from my vets and panacur for worming her.
    the reason why i might have to take her so early is because they are crawling with flea's and i am worried that if he does not get them de flea they might become anemic, but if he does get them de flea then hopefully i will be able to leave her with mum a little bit longer, but he wants them gone. if hes done nothing and they are still crawling with flea's i will bring her back with me, i will take her to the vets for a check up first.
     
  19. Cosmills

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    As soon as you pick her up you need to go straight to the vets, cos if she still has a Flea problem and you take her home , guess what ,,, your house will have fleas too ... So best to treat before she enters your home ... Poor little thing
     
  20. muffin789

    muffin789 PetForums Senior

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    OK, so he's not asking a fortune, that's good. But I would still be concerned about taking kittens when the breeder hasn't treated for fleas - he should be treating mum like any responsible cat owner at the very least and it doesn't sound as if he is.

    If I took on kittens in such circumstances I would be hugely worried about other probs the kittens might have, given the fact that the breeder doesn't seem bothered. Will the kitt be leaving having had its first vet check and vaccination? I am worried that you could be letting yourself in for a whole heap of expensive treatments by taking this little one too early. Do you know what health checks the kitt's had, or whether the parents were screened for illnesses before breeding? If they weren't, you really do need to think carefully.

    If I were in your shoes, I would be offering to take the kittens for nothing, given the fact that they haven't had any health screening and may require lengthy and expensive treatment because of the things he hasn't had done.

    I totally know how hard it is to walk away from any animal that might be in a distressing situation when we have the ability to save them, but ask yourself if you honestly believe he will stop putting other kittens in the same danger if you pay him what he wants. I really would be offering to take them on for free and dealing with their issues rather than giving him the option of doing nothing. Chances are, I would also offer to (insist on) take on getting the kitten's mum spayed in order to make sure he couldn't do the same thing with the same poor queen again.

    Poor kitts. I feel so sad for them.
     
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