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Kitten with struvite crystals

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by Paigeelizabeth, May 1, 2021 at 11:20 AM.


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    #1 Paigeelizabeth, May 1, 2021 at 11:20 AM
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    Sorry to hear this.

    Presumably she has been showing symptoms of bladder problems at home?

    Struvite crystals can be a normal finding in cats, so it can be difficult to link them to symptoms.

    How was the infection diagnosed?

    I agree with @QOTN that a wet diet would be optimum.
     
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    #4 Paigeelizabeth, May 1, 2021 at 7:37 PM
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    What reason did the nurse give for preferring dry? Surely the main thing in this situation is to increase acidity and meat is acidic. Carbohydrates are alkali so any prescription dry would have to be adjusted to take account of that fact. Plus you need plenty of moisture to flush out any crystals to prevent stones forming. Both VIN and @Ceiling Kitty recommend wet if possible.
     
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    It would be surprising of a cat of her age to have an infection. Extremely rare.

    The blood is far more likely to be the result of FIC (feline idiopathic cystitis) than a UTI.

    It's a little difficult to make meaningful suggestions on how to avoid struvite going forward without knowing if they are actually contributing to the symptoms (as opposed to a red herring), but doing all you can to increase water intake will help.

    With any urinary crystals, the aim is to make the urine as dilute as possible. A wet diet, water fountains and adding additional water to the food are some ways you can do this.
     
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    Ceiling kitty is the expert.
    I’d definitely be avoiding that dry food.
     
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    Well think about it. A cat with bladder problems needs as much moisture as possible to keep the bladder flushed out. This means a wet diet.

    Additionally a cat with a urine pH of 7 is probably having too many carbs in her diet which kibble is extremely high in. Again. this means going with a wet diet, one high in meat and low in carbs (no sugars or grains for instance).

    The vet nurse completely wrong.

    Cats are designed by nature to have a diet high in moisture and protein sourced from meat. The moisture keeps them healthy over all. The high meat content keeps their system at the proper acidic pH of 6.5.
     
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    A cat is never a "good drinker". It's abnormal. Cats have very little thirst drive. A cat described as a "good drinker" is a cat desperate to off set the dehydrating effects of dry diet.

    I'd advise you to get the male cat on a wet diet now too, or you are likely to end up with worse problems with him. A male blockage can be fatal very quickly and it is an agony for the cat.

    To help clear up your confusion you can start reading Dr Pierson's website

    www.catinfo.org.
     
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    How would struvite contribute to symptoms? As in increase the chance of an infection or cause a crystalline urethral plug (in a male)?
     
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    And the moisture keeps the urine naturally dilute so the crystals dissolve.
     
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    I wonder why the OP deleted her messages. This was a very interesting thread.
     
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    How old was the OP’s cat?
     
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