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It's fine to breed your pets for money!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by sharloid, Jul 5, 2015.


  1. sharloid

    sharloid PetForums VIP

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    A fancy magazine told me so.

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    I'm sure some of you have seen this circulating on FB but for those that haven't, it's part of an article on how to make some extra cash in Grazia magazine. :(
     
  2. Jazmine

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    Seriously?! I can't figure out who is worse, the "breeder" or the magazine.
     
  3. simplysardonic

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    Well done Grazia! Now the frothy airhead readership of your frothy airhead magazine have some great little pointers for making some extra dosh.

    And of course we're all aware of the shortage of backyard breeders in the UK :rolleyes:
     
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    This is just plain silly... Disappointing... You shouldn't just decide to spontaneously breed animals...
     
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    I wonder if they paid tax on that £5000?
     
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    I loved the comment about bitchy pet breeding forums though !:p
     
  9. Blitz

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    An interesting thought though - I wonder what percentage of litters born in the UK are bred by people wanting to make a bit of money and I wonder what percentage of those breeders lose or do not make money. My guess would be that most will be bred with that aim and most will successfully rear a decent litter of pups and will sell them at a profit.
    Maybe it is impossible for the minority to change what the majority are doing.
    The big problem lies with the buyers of these pups who are not committed and do not keep them - and it is no good saying the same thing does not happen with pups from so called 'good' breeders because we all know it does.
     
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    It probably does but good breeders will thoroughly vet potential owners and these breeders often have a good network of people in place, are able to take their pups back and be on hand for advice and support. I imagine when you have put in hours upon hours of research to find a good breeder of your chosen breed, been in touch with them and waited months or even years for the right pup - you wouldn't want to give up that puppy or dog up very easily or without no other choice and you would probably have a good idea about what you are committing too :)
     
  11. lostbear

    lostbear Bear right at Newcastle . . .

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    Irresponsible bar-stewards!
     
  12. MerlinsMum

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    Are you on Facebook? If so, have a look at Facebook groups, and search for Pets for Sale [your town/county]. You will be gobsmacked at the amount of animals being bred for money on there. I was a member of about 20 local groups within a 30 mile radius of where I live, for a year and my blood pressure was through the roof on a daily basis. I stuck with it for a full year, just to learn and get an idea of the subculture, and enable myself to get a grasp of what is going on, underground, in every town, village and city.

    I saw some atrocious things, such as kittens being traded for drugs; puppies being whelped on bare floors, with no bedding or human intervention (beyond a few photos posted online of the birth); people seeking money by studding out anything they have, including cats and rabbits. Litter after litter of puppies, including some pups which were reduced in price to any home, as the breeder (loose term) was going on holiday 2 days later. Dogs passed on from home to home. No responsibility whatsoever from breeders, and even stolen dogs changing hands.

    I am no longer on them, I came away after learning everything I needed to. But it still goes on. See for yourself.
     
  13. Aahlly

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    Ridiculous article !! What were they thinking ?!
     
  14. lostbear

    lostbear Bear right at Newcastle . . .

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    I didn't want to like this post - I wish we still had the "Thank you" facility. It's horrific what people will do to animals. I've seen litters on pets4homes - recently there was a huge litter, I think it was 13/14 pups - of enormous dogs (great dane x mastiff) that started off very jaunty and (get this brilliant and rare cross etc etc etc) and within a fortnight the cost of the pups was halved because obviously there was no response, and then the cost was dropped again (when they did seem to sell as the last ad said "only 2 left"). I can't bear to think what happens when an irresponsible breeder is left with umpteen huge puppies, all eating their heads off and getting bigger and less saleable by the day. And that's not the only litter like that you'll see. It happens with small dogs, too. A few years ago, I was making enquiries about jack russels and rang up regarding one litter which was then four months old. There were three left out of a litter of five. The woman was desperate to get rid of them and offered a second half price if we took one, and that if we bought the two bitches (on the "buy-one-get-one-half-price" deal) we could have the dog for £50. Who knows - maybe we could have beaten her down further, but we decided not to get a dog just at that time. Still at least she still had them - these were little. Not many people could afford to keep a dozen huge pups until they were that age.

    These stupid tw@ts just see money signs - it never occurs to them that they are entering a saturated market and the pups might not sell. Not that they care, I suppose - they just cut their losses and dump, drown or otherwise dispose of them - and then breed another litter in six months time. And another disturbing thing is that many of the people who actually get these dogs get them purely for breeding purposes themselves - it's a pyramid scheme with a living, breathing, feeling, thinking product! And then there are dog attacks because the poor things aren't cared for properly or socialised, and suddenly the public is up in arms about these vicious dogs, but not seeming to see that there are vicious, stupid, greedy PEOPLE behind the whole thing.

    I don't now what can be done - it breaks my heart all the suffering involved and no one in government or a position of power seems to give a monkey's.
     
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    lostbear Bear right at Newcastle . . .

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    It occurs to me (and apologies if someone has suggested this and I have missed it) that if the author of this iniquitous article wants to make money from a sex-related activity, she should just stick a card in phone box/newsagent's window/personal column/whatever and offer her own services. At least she is then offering abuse of something she has a right to treat like a commodity - herself.
     
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    But there are not enough breeders that work like this to even scratch the surface of the market for puppies. They are in the minority and dealing not only with the minority of sales but also with the minority of dog owners who are fanatics that are prepared to go through this. The majority of people have a window when they want a new dog in their life, they do not want to wait months or years or have rules laid down as to how they are to keep their dog. If I wanted a dog of certain blood lines or a dog to show or do serious obedience or another sport then of course I would have to look for what I wanted and wait for it but if I want a pet then I (and the vast majority of dog owners) want a pup more or less there and then. Not necessarily the first dog that they see on facebook but with a sensible bit of research.

    I have to say that most dogs have just happened in my life but I actually did have to search for a pup when I got Candy. I was not being fussy, just wanted a non moulting small breed though my preference was for a miniature poodle. I phoned up about numerous litters and they were always sold so there certainly seems to be a huge uptake on small breeds in Scotland. I mostly asked some questions even though there was not a puppy available and there were some I would not have bought from but most were ok. When I got Candy she was the last pup left and came from a lovely bloke who kept her for me for 2 weeks as I could not get there and then had her checked over by the vet the day before so I would not waste my time if there was anything wrong and said I must only take her if I liked her in person. He had also lead trained and virtually house trained and crate trained her.

    I am on facebook but and there are a few dogs change hands locallly. There is a local dog rescue and there is often a suggestion that dogs looking for homes are done via the rescue which I think happens a lot. You are only talking about one dog every two weeks or so though, if that. Very few litters of pups either though is a patterdale litter at the moment and I am confused because the ad says £1000 but sometimes people put daft prices because you cant advertise anything without a price so they just put anything - like £10,000 for something that is free or a negotiable price. If anyone advertises more than a couple of litters the council welfare officer investigates. Most of the people I know that have bred litters have done it purely to make money.
     
  17. jamat

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    its not just magazines

    My daughter was looking on youtube for fun videos of cavachons the other night and the amount of vids that were there posted by breeding farms horning their puppy wares was disgusting.

    Looking at other breeds it was the same, I'm gobsmaked by the number of breeders that post vids of their stock, all the vids are quite professionally done but what the real conditions these pups are bred in are covered with lots of soft focus and gloss
     
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    Author Ella Jane Brookbanks @ebrookbanks
    Editor Natasha Pearlman @tashpearlman
    Publisher Lauren Holleyoake @LHolleyoake
    Grazia owner @bauermedia
    Bauer UK MD Abby Carvosso @abbyvossers
     
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