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Inflammatory bowel disease - Help

Discussion in 'Dog Health and Nutrition' started by nanourw, Aug 23, 2013.


  1. nanourw

    nanourw PetForums Newbie

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    My 6 years old GSD has been diagnosed with IBD, started 5 months ago, very loose stools, could not keep anything, weigh loss. She had a biopsy which diagnosed the IBD.
    She was put on Royal Canin Sensitivity (SC21) and put some weigh back on, stools improved. It was ok for 6 weeks but now the IBD has flared up again. She has been taking Canikur as well (used to have pro-biotic yoghurt before the Canikur).
    We need to find a food she is happy on, was looking at Fish4dogs (Finest Fish Complete) or Applaws (Large Breed).
    Has anyone got any suggestion? How do you deal with IBD.
     
  2. nanourw

    nanourw PetForums Newbie

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    Anyone out there with idea/suggestions?
    Thank you.
     
  3. rona

    rona Still missing my boys

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    Yes I had one that nearly died from it. All dogs react to different things in their diet, so you have to find out what is triggering yours. One food at a time, strictly no treats or scavenging.
    This article is the best I've found explaining it all

    Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) in Dogs
     
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    Happy Paws2 PetForums VIP

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    Sorry I can't give you any advise, didn't want o read and run.

    I hope something can be sorted out for her soon.
     
  5. Terry Delgado

    Terry Delgado PetForums Junior

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    Im not an expert in Inflammatory Bowel Disease, but I have read that Applaws is a bit too rich and gives some dogs loose stools. Maybe its the high meat content, but before you try that I should take a bit more advice.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    Spot on :D

    Try to start with something really bland and get her settled and then introduce 1 new food, see what happens (need to feed for a couple of weeks), note results - withdraw that food and start with the next thing

    It does take time .... it's incredibly frustrating BUT you will get to a point where you have a reasonable list of things she can have (it took me nearly 6 months with Maisie - and I still try the odd new thing just to see what happens)

    Every dog is different - just like us. Both my dad & I have Crohn's Disease and he can eat things that would have me unable to leave the house for a week - and vice versa!
     
  7. totallypets

    totallypets PetForums Senior

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    I walk a dog called Elvis who was diagnosed with IBD, the specialist put him on an strict diet after diagnosis with accompanying antibiotics and steroids in decreasing doses for the first few weeks. He wanted him to have a novel protein source and suggested either rabbit, duck or venison and potato or sweet potato for about 4 months I think. The owner chose duck and sweet potato, but changed to potato as Elvis didn't really like it. For the first time he ate with gusto, having never been a foodie and the only blip happened when they ran out of potatoes and so gave rice instead.

    At the end of the duck and potato period the specialist put him on Royal Canin Hypoallergenic food which he was fine on, but he again started not eating and started losing a little weight. His owner put him on raw and with he now eats a wide range of protein sources, the only thing he has reacted to was salmon although he does scavenge sometimes but a few days of Bionic Biotics sorts him out.

    You would be best finding out what exactly your dog is allergic to before choosing a new food - if you are looking at dry food then I would look for one with the fewest ingredients so less chance of a reaction.

    Do you have any idea what caused the flare up? Scavenging? New treat?
     
  8. janjim3

    janjim3 PetForums Junior

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    Our 2 year old shih Tzu was diagnosed with IBD 18 months ago which was confirmed by an endoscopy, our Vet suggested that he be fed only Hills ZD Prescription diet (wet in tins and small biscuit type dry) Although I read a lot of 'anti Hills chat' on this forum I have to say that it has worked for our little Teddy - no more vomiting, and solid poo's. I have to say that over the past year we have slowly introduced a little occasional boiled rice, fried fish, little bits of un buttered toast, a little yoghurt and the occasional froth from cappuccino coffee!!! (not all at once I hasten to add) His main meals remain Hills ZD and I must emphasise that it works for him. Good luck, as I understand just how upsetting this ailment can be for our pets and ourselves.
     
  9. Rainchild

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    Kibble can make things so much worse. My lad had months of dioraeah , it was explosive and he lost lads of weight. I had to hydrate him with hydration powders. He was on Hills Zd too and it didn't make much difference. I gave him the left over cooked veg from Sunday roast one day as a treat because Zd is a boring food and it made him miserable , next day almost perfect poo! I couldn't believe my eyes, so I cooked up doe more veg and fantastic poo the next day too!! Slowly I moved him onto raw and we have never looked back. We have had the odd soft poo but mostly they are excellent proper poos now. I think that kibble scratches tender stomaches and lots of animals are eft gluten intolerant after infamitory bowel. Why not try some cooked veg to see, you can buy a bag f frozen broccoli, cauliflower and carrots and add a couple of cooked potatoes. Try it for a couple f meals. I see excellent results after one meal. It's worth a try.
     
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    Sled dog hotel PetForums VIP

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    The American kennel club canine health foundation has some pretty good info on IBD as regards treatment and diet.

    Inflammatory Bowel Disease | AKC Canine Health Foundation

    They are also at the moment funding research into the use of probiotics to reduce symptoms of IBD.

    Use of Probiotic to Reduce the Symptoms of Inflammatory Bowel Disease | AKC Canine Health Foundation
     
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    Its not necessarily true that high proteins are bad for ibd dogs but it has to be a good quality protein, thats what makes all the difference.

    Reccomend allergy tests to avoid trigger foods .He may have enviromental as well as food allergies; very common in ibd dogs.

    Also go for a single source protein food and would probably go for a grain free as grains can trigger so many issues.

    My Beau had chronic ibd and after multiple foods we went onto Orijen as a last resort. Was against everything my vet reccomended but for him it was amazing as in three days he had proper poops. Also remember one food doesnt fit all so it can be a trial and error thing
     
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    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    Please do this very carefully if you do it

    What works for one dog can make another very I'll

    Maisie would be really I'll if she suddenly had a load of cooked veg!
     
  13. rona

    rona Still missing my boys

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    Got to agree with this. No one can tell you what will work with your dog, you really have to eliminate as much as possible from the diet and start with just one food.
    No treats no little extras at all.
    Other people have to be severely told off if they attempt to feed your dog, and if you have a scavenger, that has to stop! Even if that means a muzzle for a while :(

    It was Chappie original tinned that work for ours......tonnes of cereal in that, which seems to be the trigger for many dog :confused:
     
  14. winter

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    This is quite common in GSD's I would start by getting your dog allergy tested and try avoiding all grains and gluten as GDS's are very sensitive to both.
    Also be careful that the yogurt doesn't make the symptoms worse proper probiotics are better.
    Egg is sometimes better with diarrhoea than rice as well.
    Supplements the vet recommended for mine was tree barks powder (slippery elm) I also found Denes digest aid good.
    zooplus sell quite a few gluten free foods.
    I hope you manage to sort out your dog's IBD.
     
  15. nanourw

    nanourw PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you so much everyone for your replies.
    It is so frustrating, she was fine on Royal Canin Sensitivity and for no reason it started all again.
    She is not a scavenger and we don't give her treat in between meal (if we do it is the odd carrot which she loves) so it's really hard to find out what triggers it.

    Guess I will keep trying new food for a few weeks till I find one she can cope with, I have been reading a lot about raw food/BARF and might give it a go, Seems to be quite a few raw/BARF products on the market.
     
  16. jazzypad1

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    Yes I definitely recommend Dorwest Tree Barks Powder - it really is excellent.

    I would also go down the route of allergy testing (both food and environmental) then at least you have some guidelines to work out a suitable diet.
     
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