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I thought prejudice against breeds had died down...

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by 8tansox, Jun 28, 2017.


  1. 8tansox

    8tansox PetForums VIP

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    ... how wrong I was!

    I took Arwin to a new training school tonight, one where I'd not been before and knew nothing about them other than the usual checks etc. Nice venue, bit of a journey to get there but I really don't mind if the place is right. Instructors were really lovely however, chap to my right with his gorgeous long haired Daxi was a little wary of Arwin (who is 11 weeks now) but said he would be very brave and stroke him... but told his wife to keep his dog away... the lady with the Chihuahua visibly shook when we did the free recall and scooped her little dog up into her lap as quickly as she could, the JRT who had already snapped at Arwin charged over and had another go at him, to which his owner said it was because he was a Rottweiler and her dog "didn't like them sort of dogs"...

    So, all in all quite an eventful evening was had by most of us. He's the youngest there by a long way and will be top of the class next week, he already left the instructor in awe at his speed of learning.

    I really did think that breedism was a thing of long long ago, I was a bit surprised to be honest and taken aback at the comments and attitude.

    Time to educate them and show them what Rottweilers are REALLY like!

    Anyone else come across breedism of late?
     
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  2. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    How deeply frustrating for you. Hope you will prove them all wrong very soon
     
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    Oh we will hahaha!
     
  4. Sairy

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    I get quite a few people who say "my dog doesn't like Alsations" (I tend to find that people who aren't keen on GSDs are more likely to refer to them as Alsations). More often than not their dog doesn't look at all bothered by mine so it's clearly the owner who doesn't like them. The best one I had though was when another dog started playing with mine and the owner rushed up and said "what breed is your dog?" My OH replied "she's a German shepherd" to which the woman breathed a sigh of relief and said "oh thank God, I thought it was an Alsation and my dog doesn't like Alsations!" :Hilarious
     
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    It's pretty much a daily thing here.
    I was in the local garage a few days ago (only a handful of dogs are allowed in the shop and Thai is one of them) and I was having a chat with one of the cashiers whilst she fawned over him (she tells me off if I go in without Thai).
    Thai gave her a high-five for a treat and some dude yells over "Oh...I didn't realise THOSE types of dogs were allowed in here"

    I didn't have to say a word - the cashier stood up and said "No, your dog isn't allowed in here because she steals food and pees on the floor."
     
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    Hahaha, love it. Brilliant. Thank you for the smile you've given me tonight! :Happy:Happy:Happy:Happy
     
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    Not recently because we rarely interact with other people or their dogs but when Indie was about 2 we came across a family out walking, children, parents, grandparents and one GR dog. The dog was at the front of the group with the grandfather and it went for Indie quite badly - rolled her over snarling at her teeth on display, the grandfather apologised and put it on its lead and we carried on past the rest of the family. Parents and children wanted to say hello to Indie who did her usual sit on their feet, slide down their legs and wave her legs in the air for a belly rub then her dance of joy around them all pulling her silly faces etc. Everyone was admiring her and complimenting her lovely nature until grandmother asked what breed she was. When I said rottie she immediately pulled the two grandchildren away and said don't touch her, usually I would shrug that off but given her dog had been really quite badly behaved I challenged her and asked why, she got very defensive and said she didn't trust them and didn't want to "risk it". I could see her family were embarrassed so I just said I find that interesting given your dog has just gone for her and with that she flounced off.
     
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    Exactly. I think I have been in my own little bubble these past years so to speak, but decided to go to another training school so I was a bit shocked at the attitude. I'll be better prepared for it next week - with THE best puppy there, not that I'm competitive at all you understand haha!
     
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    I was at a local festival a few weeks back. There was a charity dog show which I was watching when this guy with a big labrador stood next to me. We started chatting about his dog when I felt Ty stir. I looked down and saw his lab giving Ty the stink eye. I started moving away when both sets of hackles went up and Ty roared at the lab. People turned to look and guess who got tutted at? Yeah the nasty vicious Staffy barking at the lovely fluffy Labrador. :rolleyes:

    The Lab's owner knew what really happened. He gave me a shamefaced look and walked away.
     
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    Continue to be a breed ambassador!

    Yes I've come across it. Usually people are not out right terrified, but cautious.
     
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  11. ouesi

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    I love your attitude :)

    Sadly no matter where I take mine there is always breedism in some way or another.
    With Breez I think her sheer size genuinely scares/shocks people sometimes, so I try to chalk most of the odd reactions to her to that. But yes, definitely people cross the road to avoid her, and of course people also cross the road to come interact with her too :)

    Bates is a big, black, bull-breed looking mutt and he gets a lot of ridiculousness too. From the scared parents grabbing their children away to the yahoos telling me their dog could fight mine. Yes, literally. Most of the time I ignore it and try to take the attitude you do and just let my dog prove himself, which he does, repeatedly. Makes me proud every day :) They both do.
     
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    There's still a lot of 'argh, Alsatian!' feeling out there, I guess because of the police/security/military connection and a hangover from when GSDs were the 'devil dogs' of the day. Occasional looks and iffy comments. Small dogs/children being hurried away etc. I get big burly men walking in the middle of the road to avoid my old girl. Well it's either that or the opposite - making a big show of approaching us and trying to win her affections to prove they're not afraid. I can easily tell that type apart from genuine admirers.
     
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    They'll soon change their tune when they realise how well trained Arwin is :)

    I never get any breedism here, which does surprise me at times because I have a big black & tan dog. But most people who do approach say he looks much softer and friendlier than a Rottie or similar. Which is kind of funny because the Rotties I've met tend to be more gregarious. Just goes to show the power of the media!
     
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    Tediously tiresome and frustrating isn't it.

    We became pariahs and social lepers when Oscar was just a pup. Banned from taking him into dog parks, the section designated for big dogs, and made to stay out by the keepers at the gate. Socialisation has always proved interesting, watch the crowds suddenly part as if moses himself had held out his staff before the sea of people. ;)

    Odd that our dogs have never attacked or attempted to attack any other dog, yet both Zara and Oscar have been attacked and injured by other dogs.

    Something somewhere isn't quite right.o_O
     
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    Someone told me the other day that her relative had owned a German Shepherd and and an alsatian. I pointed out that they were the same breed but apparently I was wrong!
    When I owned a GSD I had a lot of problems with people not even wanting to get out of their cars in spite of the fact that he was shut away. I was told I was putting my daughter at risk and that he would turn on her at some stage however friendly he was. He was a rehome and unfortunately turned out to be unsound round livestock so he could not stay, but what a lovely dog he was.
     
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    I have had several arguments with people who wouldn't believe that they were the same breed :rolleyes:, very frustrating! I also get the concerned parents worried that my dog might attack their children even though she is nowhere near them. It does get tiresome.
     
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    Out of curiosity (sorry to digress a little @8tansox) when and why did Alsatian change to GSD? When we had a cross about 30 years ago he was routinely referred to as an Alsatian/ Collie but I sort of lost touch with the terminology after we lost him (amazing, clever, loyal lovely rescue boy btw).
     
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    Double post
     
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  19. Boxerluver30

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    I walk with an older man sometimes and his American bulldog, now Clyde is honestly one of the friendliest dogs I've ever met, both with people and other dogs (Samson loves playing with him as he can play rough as he likes). Anyway they come across a lot of breedism, Barry was once telling me about when they were in a park in another area of warrington (can't remember exactly where it was now) and someone shouted over to him and Clyde "get that horrible vicious dog out of here" :Jawdrop:mad:. Clyde was just pottering about at the time, it really upset Barry and he left because of it :(. I don't know what I would of done in that situation, tbh it makes so angry that there is a good chance I would of shouted back at the ignorant bastard:mad:. You make arwin a model doggy citizen and prove all those haters wrong ;)
     
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    Boxerluver30 Hound Lover

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    I think it was changed to alsation originally as britain didn't want to associate themselves with anything German sounding after world wars 1 and 2. So the name German Shepherd was out of the question, I think in America the kc changed it to Shepherd dog.
     
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