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Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by hammers24, Jun 9, 2010.


  1. hammers24

    hammers24 PetForums Junior

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    ello there... ive taken on an 9 week old puppy. but i need to go back to work 2moz ive taken a week off to allow puppy to settle in. i work 8 hours a day and there isnt really anyone that can come round and stay with her plus i dont have money for dog sitter either. ive got her a crate but i refuse to lock her in there 8 hours a day while im working. ive ordered a play pen aswell which should be here today she dont like being lleft alone but is getting better. what can i do???
     
  2. Cleo38

    Cleo38 PetForums VIP

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    Why have you got a puppy if you work full time & can not afford someone to come in the day???
    You should not be crating a puppy for 8hrs a day. Is there really not anyone that can help you out?
     
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  3. BigBearsRule

    BigBearsRule PetForums Senior

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    Could you not ask a family member to come and sit with oyur pup for a while?
    Or maybe a neighbour that you are friendly with.
    It seems very unfair to the poor puppy to be locked away 8 or 9 hours every day.
     
  4. vivienne

    vivienne PetForums Junior

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    Unfortunately there is no real answer to this. A puppy should not be left all day. Why oh why did you get a puppy when you cannot offer it what it needs?
    If you intend to keep the puppy then I think you have to make a dog sitter of some kind a priority.
    Have you thought what a boring and tedious life that pup will have being left all day and what for - so you can see it for a few hours in the evening.
    Why do you think rescues won't home to people out all day.
    I am sorry to say it but you haven't of the dogs needs only what you want.
     
  5. miti999

    miti999 PetForums Senior

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    I agree completely with all of the above. It's sheer madness to get a puppy when you can't be there to take care of it.
     
  6. hammers24

    hammers24 PetForums Junior

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    im not crating the puppy for 8 hours. mayb i can ask my next door neibours to come in. it is no way my intention to be cruel to the dog has i love her 2 bits
     
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    hammers24 PetForums Junior

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    and im not out all day everyday either i work off a rota and my partner is gonna be ere weekends and as ive said i aint work everyday of the week
     
  8. Cleo38

    Cleo38 PetForums VIP

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    But you still need to consider her needs if you really do love her to bits. A puppy cannot be left all day alone like some adult dogs can.
    You will need to be consitant with her toilet training & if some days she will be left alone this will start to be a big problem.
    Also i would suggest try buying her some toys in which she can interact with. My sister has recently bought a lab puppy & she has found that he gets bored very quickly (although he does know that he has to have 'calm' periods) he requires alot of stimulation to stop him chewing, whining, etc.
    Try looking at some Nina Ottosson toys for him - they are a bit pricey but pups seem to love them.
    You do really need to get somone in the days you are not there. You may not wish to be deliberately cruel to your pup but unfortunatley a lack of company will affect her even if she has room to run around in.
     
  9. dinks

    dinks PetForums Senior

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    Hi Hammers24
    You simply cant leave the puppy for 8 hours a day.You will have serious issues with house training and also further training issues (mental and physical) to that will be very difficult to resolve.
    One week off to allow pup to settle in is just not enough - how do you expect your pup to hold on to the toilet for 8 hours.Just not going to happen.Its also not fair to leave the pup by its self all day.
    You must seek an alternative- whether thats in the form of a neighbour/friend coming in to spend time with the pup or rehoming the pup-the choice of course is yours.:)
     
  10. Montys_Mum

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    We had the same thing. I was able to pop home at lunchtimes for a week or so. We used a puppy play pen when he was very little, with his bed, toilet papers, toys, food and drink. As he got bigger we removed the pen and he has the run of the kitchen now. It CAN be done!
    He is used to have the day alone, he gets the radio on, kong, toys, paper area (which he doesn't always need anymore), his bed, chews etc.
    Overnight he is shut in his crate, but never during the day.
    So don't panic. It just takes time and patience, making sure puppy has all they need and are in a safe place (we made sure kitchen was totally puppy proofed first!).

    We did the same thing, 9 week old puppy, stayed with him first week, then returned to work. he is now 6 months old and he copes pretty well.

    Make sure pup is supplied with all he/she needs and is safe. Pop home at lunch times to begin with if you can, although we found that only upset our pup so stopped it after a week.

    Our neighbour works nights so home during the day, and she reports no noise from Monty during the day at all. TBH I think once he has used up his kong and chewed the rawhide etc he sleeps a lot of the time :)

    Yes we'd love to be home all day, but for a lot of people that isn't always possible as most work and can't take pets to work.

    Because we started this at an early age Monty is totally used to it. He doesn't cry or bark when I leave and is happy to see us when we return home and clearly doesn't howl/bark etc during the day when we aren't there. So there is hope :)

    (I'll probably be lynched, but I thought it right to put the other side across and show it CAN work!).
     
  11. Cleo38

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    I can understand that dogs need to get used to being left as most owners (unfortunately :D) have jobs but a pup is different. Also how can an animal be expected to not go to the toilet for 8hrs?
    My dog is on his own as I work but he gets at least one visit in the middle of the day so he can go to the loo .... I wouldn't be able to hold on all day so wouldn't expect him to either
     
  12. Montys_Mum

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    He doesn't have to hold on. He is paper trained as well as going outdoors. During the day he has paper down and uses that if he needs too (on occasion as he is getting older he often doesn't use it at all).

    When we are home he asks to go out, and overnight he is in his crate and doesn't go (we never leave him longer than 8 hrs overnight and that was gradually extended over time as he aged on recommendations through books/vets etc).

    Maybe we are lucky? We used lots of different training techniques and the above solution works for us. He is pretty well house trained as you can see, and some days he does hold it all day (although he doesn't have to if he needs to go, he can and if he does, he does it on the paper).

    We got a basset hound in part due to them being lower energy as we knew we'd be working as well, so maybe breed does have something to do with it.

    He's good at other people's houses too, we have only tried it a couple of times so far, but he whined his need to go outside, we took him, he went and we returned inside, very proud parents :)

    I agree it'd be best to be at home all day, but all I am saying is that it isn't always practical and if you have a plan and do things the best you can with training and providing for the pup (which I believe we have), then it is do-able.
     
  13. Cleo38

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    Am glad it works for you! Although I do think that a really young pup needs alot more attention than an adult dog so I think the OP should have someone coming in to spend time with the pup.
    I must admit I would LOVE to be at home all day with my dog & cats but like most people have to work but I still have to prioritise their needs before my own. For me it means getting to work early, no lunch hour so I can get home early & paying somone to come in during the day or arrange for Toby to go to my sisters.
     
  14. Nonnie

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    I think some breeds can accept and cope with being left alone all day, as some are downright lazy and laidback.

    But a rottie/GSD cross will need extensive socialisation and training. I would be concerened about the psychological impact and how it may affect his behaviour being left alone for such a long time with no mental stimulation.

    What will you do if he become destructive as he gets older? Or starts to bark for hours on end? GSD's can be very vocal.

    You really need to sort something out for the middle of the day. Make some sacrifices in order to afford a dog walker or day care.
     
  15. westie~ma

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    Can I ask why you use a crate at night if your Monty is so well behaved during the day unsupervised?
     
  16. Montys_Mum

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    He has always been crated overnight, so heads that way at bedtime! hehehe We continue with it to ensure all our hard work house training isn't lost, he is 6 months old so not fully grown yet.

    As with the comments on the cage thread, I don't see why the need change it? He likes it, has a thick comfy mattress, a teddy and a rawhide in there and sleeps well. Never fusses and feels safe (which I assume as he goes in it on his own as it is left open during the day).

    So why change a habit he is used too? I wouldn't want to alter his routine as he seems happy as he is and changing a routine might cause him problems.

    I suppose the old adage, if it ain't broke don't fix it, comes into play ;)

    Ref breed, I do agree. We picked a low energy dog on purpose. I'd have liked a collie but knew that wouldn't be practical with our lifestyle.
    And we love having Monty in our lives, my Aunt has a Basset hound too so we got some good advice from her.
     
  17. westie~ma

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    I'm not having a go at you, just curious if your Monty is ok during the day on his own why you feel the need to crate him overnight :)

    I'm asking the question cos I crated my Monty at night when we first had him, mainly due to our cat sharing the kitchen with him so wanted to make sure they were both safe overnight.

    Once I realised that he was fine during the day when I left him home-alone in the kitchen for short periods, I gradually stopped using the crate overnight cos it seemed pointless having it taking up space. He did have another bed in the kitchen as well as the crate (with an open door) and he preferred his other bed.
     
  18. Montys_Mum

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    Ahh no worries :) we have a fairly large kitchen so holds the crate pretty well and he seems to like it (well he should do, he has a thick mattress in there with a cuddley toy, blankets of the top and the sides so he sees it as his den. Some days I am jealous of all the comfort he has lol).

    The cats are shut out of the kitchen overnight so as not to disturb him (we have 6 and they can cause a bit of a scene if they want too lol). And they tend to use Monty's other beds for themselves overnight lol (he has a large pillow and a blanket in the front room so can sleep near us in the evenings/weekends if he wants too).
     
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    As to the crate question, our Holly is fine during the day on her own, as she has a second bed which she uses as her day bed, and isn't crated, hwoever at night time she is always locked in her crate for the duration (well she thinks she's locked in when the reality is that she can open the door as we just shut it).

    Even now, as Holly is almost 8 months, she is only left for a maximum of 2 hours on her own, and she gets a kong stuffed with frozen raw food. At 9 weeks old Holly wasn't left alone for more than 10 mins at a time, apart from in the car if we went food shopping.
     
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    That is very nice for you but most people do need to go out without their dogs and if they can be left for 2 hours they can be left for longer.
    I dont like having just one dog, it is much easier if they have company, but I left Candy crated for about 2 hours every day from the day I got her and then started leaving her for longer loose with the other dog. Now I only have Candy I am running into a bit of a problem but she has to learn and has been left for a few hours.
     
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