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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Sairy, Feb 6, 2018.


  1. Sairy

    Sairy PetForums VIP

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    ...to appreciate the people of PF and the fantastic advice given on here. Now I'm not looking through rose-tinted glasses as I know sometimes things get heated and from time to time posts might come across as blunt etc., but by and large the advice given on here is sound and people usually admit when they are unsure what advice to give but just want to offer sympathy.

    What has brought this on? Well I have recently joined a dog group on Facebook and have been quite shocked at some of the advice given out. One example was someone asked for advice regarding a new puppy they had who was distressed at night and wouldn't stop whining (pup was sleeping downstairs in a crate). The advice given by some was to leave the pup to cry as it would eventually give up :(

    Another post I saw this morning was from someone whose dog was guarding his food. One person's advice was to attach a house line to the dog, take the food away and if the dog growled to give it a leash correction. This person even had their children taking the food away and doing the same thing! Even more worrying was the amount of people who liked the post. I have said my piece on the discussion and have no idea whether or not I will be taken seriously as a newbie on there, but I really hope that at least it might make someone think otherwise.

    So yeah, I am glad to be amongst a group of people who offer good advice, and not dangerous advice.
     
  2. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    It's one of the reasons I won't join much on Facebook, the only things I'm a member of is the village group and the group with the same motorhome as us, the rest can carry on having a go at each other without my help. I sometimes read some of the replies on something g that's turned up in the News Feed and the vitriol and stupidity just astounds me.

    This forum works well, it's sensibly moderated and there are so many that are helpful and insightful in their replies. The experience some people have and are willing to pass on is fantastic.
    I know it gets annoying when the tenth person that day turns up wanting to know how to toilet train their puppy and appear not to have read anything in preparation before the puppy came home. I'm beginning to wonder if I should get a share of the royalties from Gwen Baileys book The Perfect Puppy as I recommend it so often

    Another thing, which amuses a number of my friends, is the range of knowledge within the forum members. It doesn't matter what you ask someone seems to have an answer (you may have noticed my thread about a foreign coin dug up in a neighbours garden recently, up popped Zaros with the answer:D).

    Yes, all in all it's a good place to be a member of. Long may Pet Forums continue:Smug
     
  3. Teddy-dog

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    I agree :) I really like this forum. Everyone is really lovely and it has a proper community feel. Even though we haven't been here long I've picked up so much advice and everyone has always been encouraging about my posts about Teds and our adventures :)

    I think the problem with FB is it's no effort for anyone to join or contribute to groups. It just pops up on their news feed and they think 'I'll comment on that!'. Some of the stuff I've read.... :Banghead

    I'm a member of a few groups but I try and steer away from the comments nowadays and just join groups I think I might pick up some ideas from or look at the nice photos! There are always the people who think they know it all and their opinion is right and not willing to listen to others. And there are always the people who like to jump on people who post an innocent photo or post and tell them how badly they're caring for their animal. Sometimes it just doesn't need to be said (sometimes it does but some people seem to use innocent posts to show how much of an 'expert' they are).
    I saw a post the other day asking for advice as they have a puppy and getting it used to the cat. There were so many comments about telling the puppy off and not let it do this and this, which some of it was OK but there was not one that talked about rewarding the puppy when it displayed the correct behaviour. So i did comment on that.

    Bit of a ramble, sorry! But it's something I've been thinking about recently too.
     
  4. SusieRainbow

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    I agree, the forum has a real community vibe. It's touched my heart to read the supportive messages to those members who are suffering personal dificulties - there may be fallings out but when the chips are down we all rally round and help each other.
    It really does make me feel quite warm and fuzzy at times.
    Face book does seem full of opinionated idiots in some of the groups. The groups I belong to are mostly Dachshund related ( yes, really ! ) and generally quite sensible , but some others - well ! I don't spend much time on those.
    The Dachshund ones have been very helpful as has the IVDD one , that saved my sanity 2 years ago when I feared the worst for poor little Reena.
     
  5. Sairy

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    I'm having an argument with this person now. I have said that punishing your dog for growling is a bad idea as they may start skipping the growl and going straight for the bite. He has now asked for evidence that isn't my opinion. I don't have time to look tonight as I'm at training, but if anyone has any decent links they could share then I'd love to have the last word on this!
     
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  6. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    Thanks Siskin. I forgot how exhausting these type of arguments are. These people are like fleas - bloody irritating and just when you think you've done all you need to do to get rid of them...they come back again!
     
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  9. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    Breakout the Frontline spray:Smuggrin
     
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    :D :D
    In all seriousness though, the internet is FULL of misinformation. For my own sanity I try to pick my battles wisely. Otherwise it can suck you in and there are so many other uses of your time that are far less stressful :)
     
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  11. Rafa

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    I am a member of only one FB Group and this one I know won't send my blood pressure sky high.

    I don't get into arguments as so many are convinced they're right, will argue until they're blue in the face and not hesitate to become foul mouthed and abusive when they feel they may not be winning the fight.
     
  12. Sairy

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    Thread is now locked! I'll end up banned at this rate!
     
  13. Rafa

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    Is this a dog forum you're on?
     
  14. Sairy

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    Yeah I argue a lot less than I used to because it can be really stressful. Probably a good thing the thread has been locked!
     
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    Yes it is.
     
  16. Sairy

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    I love that picture @ouesi !
     
  17. ouesi

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    I used to get all sorts of heated on a parenting forum when there were pets and kids problems. I finally had to just stop frequenting that forum.
     
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    I have learnt so much from this forum about dogs. If I ever get to own one I am in a much better place than I would have been to give it the best life possible.

    @Sairy , why not just private message the posters asking the original question extolling the virtues of petforums and how there is some excellent advice and a friendly welcome to be had here. Leave the idiots just talking amongst themselves.
     
  19. Biffo

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    This place is really well moderated, and I think the members do a good job themselves too.

    Facebook is something else though. I'm in a couple of BRT groups, and raw feeding groups and medical condition specific groups (i.e. migraine) and some are really useful, but mostly I find myself rolling my eyes a lot.
     
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    If it hadn't been for PF I probably would not still have my Chip, he was such a sick little scrap of a thing when I first had him.
    I came on here looking for advice to go along side the vet's and I got no end of good advice.
    I came on here over the first 3 years of his life A LOT looking for advice on a multitude of things health related and got it.
    I came on here questioning weather I had done the right thing in keeping him going when yet another health problem arose
    several times and got nothing but help and moral support, without all of this I would probably have given up on him and had him PTS.
    He is now a fit and healthy 51/2 year old.
    I can't say all was rosy I did get some not very helpful advice and quite a lot of criticism from some members at that time, and some of the comments hurt,
    but that will always happen on an open forum such as this one, but on the whole it was great to have some where to come most of the people understand
    where you are coming from and offer sincere advice and support especially when you can not get that support from family or friends.
    Unfortunately a lot of those who were here when I first joined no longer post but there are still a few and to them I would like to say a very
    BIG THANK YOU
    from both myself and Chip, he only made it because of the wonderful people of this forum
     
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