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How to train a puppy?

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by lifeizsweet, Jul 19, 2009.


  1. lifeizsweet

    lifeizsweet PetForums VIP

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    Hello everyone,

    I have had Bramble for about 3 weeks now and we've really started to concentrate on his training, this may be a silly question but how do you do it?? He's learnt 'no' 'sit' and 'wait' but i didn't really teach him them he just seemed to pick them up. I'd like to teach him to lay down. How do i go about this? The OH is the one with all the dog training knowledge and he's gone off fishing for the forseable future.
     
  2. Nonnie

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    Have you thought about puppy classes?
     
  3. lifeizsweet

    lifeizsweet PetForums VIP

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    My OH is insistant that he will be the one to train him and that Bramble shouldn't go to puppy classes (crazy i know!) I looked into one local to me, but it seemed very expensive for what it was and then length of time it lasted.
     
  4. Nonnie

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    Puppy classes arent just about training, but about socialisation.

    Are you usung a reward method for training? Ever thought about clicker training? Clicker Training Dogs - How to Clicker Train Your Dog

    Whatever method you choose, make sure you both use the same one, and are consistent, and NEVER use punishment or force.
     
  5. Colliepoodle

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    If your OH is insistent that the puppy doesn't go to classes, he isn't quite as knowledgeable about training as he likes to think, is he?

    I recommend you take the pup to classes while he's fishing - the pup will learn valuable socialisation skills and you'll learn how to train him.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people get a dog and THEN think about finding out about how to actually look after and train them :confused:
     
  6. lifeizsweet

    lifeizsweet PetForums VIP

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    we've used reward methods for his toilet training etc.

    My OH and his dad have had several dogs, all tried at home not at puppy classes and they've all turned into well trained well adjusted animals. This was always the plan for our pup, we thought long and hard before got one. I only asked as I am on my own at the moment and wanted some at home training advice.

    I can't justify paying £100 for five hours worth of puppy training, it just seem too expensive for me, he gets to socialise with other dogs and puppies right now, I just wanted a little training advise.
     
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    HighlandQuine PetForums Senior

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    I'd definitely take your pup to classes. Bailey goes to training for an hour a week and it's only £7 per class, that seems to be the going rate up here. I'd have a look around and see what other classes there are and if they're cheaper, the one you mentioned seems very expensive.
     
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    Training classes round your way are £20 an hour??
     
  9. minizoo

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    if you cant afford 100 for training(although seems a lot to me anyway) how can you manage when yu need a vet or whatnot?

    if you as a family get a dog then its up to the entire family to trian not just your OH
     
  10. Nonnie

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    The ones i looked into in my area were £90 for 6 weeks, and the "trainer" is a woman who owns a pet shop and has NO training or experience whatsoever, apart from watching a few puppy classes.

    Suffice to say i didnt go.

    Neither of my dogs went to puppy classes, as we had none local to me, and the one i could get to used choke chains as a training method. Plus the trainer didnt like Staffies.

    If people don't go to classes, then i think they have to double the efforts when it comes to socialising.
     
  11. Colliepoodle

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    Yes, fair enough point.

    I was lucky; I think I paid £40 for a course of 6 puppy classes, run by a very experienced trainer who also competes in Obedience.

    I do agree that if you know a bit about what you're doing, and you're willing to double your efforts at socialising, you can do without classes but I also think that if you haven't much of a clue then NOTHING beats actually watching someone do it. Asking on the internet is all very well and better than nothing, but it isn't the same as having someone next to you, telling/showing you what to do.
     
  12. Nonnie

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    I will admit, i wish i had been able to go to puppy classes. I think Oscar would have better doggy ettiquette if he had gone. But he was injured when i got him, and that took 3 months to heal sufficiently. By then i had pretty much trained him as far as one can at that age, and with my dog ;). It was the socialisation, and boundaries he could have used help with.
     
  13. Colliepoodle

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    For me, puppy classes weren't so much about letting my dog socialise with other dogs, as learning to ignore other dogs and play with me...

    It's a balance, isn't it - I want my dog to know HOW to interact with other dogs but I don't particularly want her to play with them. I want her to prefer to have her fun with me.

    I took her to a "Puppy Party" at the local vets and was horrified when the vet nurse who ran it asked for 3 of the puppies to be let off the lead and allowed to play (which they did with typical puppy glee) and then almost immediately produced a Pet Corrector spray and demonstrated how to "split them up if they get too boisterous" (which they weren't anyway, and if they were it was her fault for letting them in the first place!) - absolutely terrifying them. I was furious; there was no need for it, she had set up the situation anyway and was clearly hoping to flog a few Pet Correctors to the most clueless and nervy puppy owners :cursing:
     
  14. Jacinth

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    lifeizsweet

    You can get lots of training books on how to train your puppy. Although I do take my puppy to classes, they are expensive and it's a lottery as to whether they are beneficial or not. I'm lucky in that my puppy loves his classes and for socialisation purposes it's very good, but as for training, I did it mostly by myself and I've never owned a dog before.

    Not all dog owners have stashes of money for every eventuality that might occur throughout their life. You seem to have done ok. There are also lots of free advice on the internet if you just google what you want to know.
     
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    hi this is the same debate i am at the mo. I feel that your the only person who an decide it to.With my male english i never needed any lessons at all,he was very well behaved and still, controlling him on lead is very good,he is abig stockt dog who roughly weighs 30kg so he has a lot of power is like walkimg a poodle now pulling ever, now i have got another english pup its a descision that we have not spoke about, she is so stubborn and tried to run my house, i also have tried a few thinks but there not sinking in.
    If you feel that your pup is very good without showing him much, then i dont think you would need classes, however if you feel like the wall is paying more attention and you still arent making any progress then go along see what they could offer you.
     
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    This is a very interesting debate, with points on both sides. I think that the ideal situation is to take your dog to a puppy class run by someone who really knows what they are doing but, as some posters have shown, some puppy classes leave a lot to be desired.

    If you know what you are doing it is perfectly possible to train and socialise your pup without puppy classes, but if you are a new owner then a good puppy class will train you as much as your dog.

    In your situation, lifeizsweet, your OH may know what he is doing but he obviously is not there all the time and, as minizoo said, everyone around the puppy needs to train the puppy, not just one person. If you have just one person training the puppy, one of two things will happen: either the pup will become confused because everyone is rewarding him for doing different things, or the pup will learn that he only has to obey one person and it doesn't matter about obeying the rest of the humans around him. Can you imagine what it will be like for you if you have to take him for a walk without your OH and he won't walk properly on the lead, or won't come back when you recall him, because he has been taught he only has to obey your OH?

    If puppy classes are really out of the question for you, perhaps your OH could share his training methods with you so that you both train the pup.
     
  17. flynnsmum

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    Going back to the original question about the best way to teach the puppy to lie down, I have just taught Flynn this. I read a tip in a mag I bought that suggested getting the dog to sit then while holding a treat just above his nose so he knows it's there, slowly pull your hand down to the floor at the same time saying your command word, Lie or Down etc. When they have lay down reward with said treat. It took Flynn about half a dozen times before he realised thats what I wanted but he got there. Now for more training.....;)
     
  18. fun4fido

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    I think it's great that you are actively looking to train your pup.

    A good book is Dog-friendly Dog Training by Andrea Arden

    It's also advisable to enrol in puppy classes, as this will be beneficial with ongoing socialisation, and teaching your pup to give you attention with distractions. But choose a puppy class carefully, make sure the trainer uses modern, scientific based, reward based training.
     
  19. Louby

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    where do you live?

    I am in manchester and for the under 20 wk old puppy classes my pup will be going too are £42 for 7 weeks

    The next one after for 6-12mth pups is £70 for 7 weeks

    I think £100 for 5 weeks is a little steep - but i would prefer to pay that and learn a great deal about my pup at the same time if i am honest. :)
     
  20. caelsgirl

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    I used this method with both my dogs, both learned it realatively quickly this way, my terrier x had it down in ten mins! My NI tho took a bit longer!

    I'm not sure but have you thought of trying the good citizen dog scheme
    Good Citizen Dog Scheme | The Kennel Club
     
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