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How to train a puppy to go out by himself

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by assad, Apr 5, 2011.

  1. assad

    assad PetForums Newbie

    Apr 5, 2011
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    Help please
    We have a 11 week old Cavalier King Charles
    Over the last 2 weeks we have been toilet training him by taking him out to a specific place in the garden and staying with him till he has done his business, this has been working prety well.
    Would like to to take it to the next level, where he goes by himself without the need for me to stand outside.
    At the moment if you let him out by himself, he does not always go, he circles the garden once and comes back to the back door and starts crying to be let back in.
    Any ideas please.
    Regards Assad
  2. leashedForLife

    Nov 1, 2009
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    simple answer:
    he is too young - he will not have a fully-functioning sphincter on bladder & bowel for another week
    [12-WO], and will still need to learn how to 'hold it' - what a full bladder feels like, a full-bowel,
    build some muscle-tone so he can 'hold it', which takes practice -
    2nd, U need to Be There with him on leash, to see what if anything he produces, how much, & any odd
    symptoms: straining, blood?, color, non-food in his feces, softening of feces, etc.
    3rd, U need to be there to reward him - every right place, right time pee or stool gets treats & praise.

    plus, emotionally HE IS AN INFANT - do U expect a 6-MO child to feed & dress himself? of course not.
    this baby is in the 12-MO potty-training stage - he will need another 3 to 4 weeks, at least, going out at night
    at approx 3-AM every night, after a last potty-trip as late as possible between 10 & 11-pm, then bed,
    crate the pup, set the alarm for 3-AM, have the coat & shoes laid out to go over PJs, have the leash on the roof
    of pup's shipping-crate & a treat-bag in the pocket of the jacket.

    he should be dry & clean at night by between 15 & 16-WO; it may take till 6-MO to be clean & dry, daytimes -
    as that is when all the triggers occur: meals, active play, exciting events, waking from naps,
    etc - those are all triggers: a full stomach [liquid or solid], excitement at meeting visitors, chasing a toy
    or other active play... pick up the pup, grab the leash, carry him out, set him down in a
    familiar spot where he has voided before, & clip the leash on before letting go of the pup - then Wait...
    and PRAISE & REWARD warmly when he produces, as soon as he stands from his squat that treat should be
    in front of his nose; not kibble, something real - a 1/4th-inch cube of chicken breast, a 1/8th-inch bit of beef,
    a tiny flake of canned or pouch tuna - small, but good, & warm sincere calm praise - ladle it on, :thumbup:
  3. Helbo

    Helbo PetForums VIP

    Sep 15, 2010
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    Don't close the door to your puppy leaving them feeling shut out and separated from you as they need to be relaxed and confident to do their business.

    Asking to go out to the toilet, or taking themselves, will come with time. Teaching your dog the garden is the place to go is all you can really do.

    Some on here have taught their dog that touching a bell by the back door means the door will be opened for them so perhaps you'd be interested in something like that? But it doesn't necessarily mean they're asking to go to the toilet, they're just asking to go out.

    Be patient - your pups only young yet
  4. As others have said he is far too young - you need to continue going out with him and praising him if you send him out alone he will not know why the heck he has been sent out!
    PAtience , Routine and commitment are the key - it will all fall right in the end!
  5. RobD-BCactive

    RobD-BCactive PetForums VIP

    Jul 1, 2010
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    If you look at "barking (or digging) in garden" threads, a common theme is desire by owner for the young dog to behave without any supervision, amusing themselves.

    Unfortunately, dogs left to amuse themselves, tend to do so in ways that work for them but not the people around becoming troublesome. So expect to teach your puppy lots, and give it lots of attention, the effort & time invested pay off for years to come.
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