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My fiancée and I got our 8 week old Shih Tzu puppy on Sunday and are in love with him. Our problem is we live in a block of flats and the back garden is shared with everyone else. I know one of the other flats have a dog and takes it outside in the back so my question is Will it be okay to take our puppy out the back to try encourage it to do the toilet or should we stick with puppy pads in the house until he has his second vaccination.
 

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Aslong as the other dog is up to date with vacs and healthy etc you should be fine. I dont believe in using puppy pads as it is very confusing for the poor dog and a dog should not be encouraged to toilet in the house.
 

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Please yes get him outside as soon as possible. There is more risk that you'll give him up due to house training problems before he's 2 (araound 20% of dogs are given up by that age) than he would catch something from another dog.

Try to keep him away from where the other dog does his business, puddles, ditches, places dogs might wee like lamposts and hedges etc, any poop of any kind and anywhere rats or foxes might pass through.

I see puppies who live in houses who have never been outside to the toilet, some 12 weeks old! House training is so much harder.
 

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Hi,

My fiancée and I got our 8 week old Shih Tzu puppy on Sunday and are in love with him. Our problem is we live in a block of flats and the back garden is shared with everyone else. I know one of the other flats have a dog and takes it outside in the back so my question is Will it be okay to take our puppy out the back to try encourage it to do the toilet or should we stick with puppy pads in the house until he has his second vaccination.
Normally I am all for starting outside toilet training straight away as soon as the pup comes home subject to having a private back garden. In this case though if the only area you have is where other dogs have been then personally I wouldnt.

Parvo virus is spread in the faeces of infected dogs, thats how its primarily spread.
Dogs can also be non clinical sheaders of the virus too not be clinically affected but can still be carriers and shed the virus in their faeces. parvo virus can also live in the environment for long periods of time too and is very resilient.

Pups can have maternal derived antibodies from mum, but by 8 weeks to 12 weeks the maternal derived immunity has waned, But there is no way of knowing when your particular pups has waned for sure. some pups do not have enough matermal derived antibodies to start with. Once they are vaccinated the antibodies to the various diseases do have to form, hence the booster needed and the time frame before they can walk about where other dogs and animals have defeacated.

My pups were 11 and 12 weeks when I got them, and not house trained at all and began training in the garden as soon as I got them, and at this age I didnt have any problems.

Speak to you vet and see what he says, but personally I wouldnt like to risk it.
You can get him used to sights sounds and situations by carrying him about as long as he is not put down where other dogs have urinated or defeacated, or he doesnt have close contact with them.

This may help too its a socialisation plan and at the end of the breeders and early caregivers section there is a download to follow
The Puppy Plan
 
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