Because they aren't bad at all :thumbup: His dam had hips of 6:6 and his sire had hips of 5:8, so the totals were his dam 12 and his sire 13. Rupert has come back with perfect elbows of 0:0 and hips of................. 6:6!! That gives 12 overall for hips, breed average is 18 and I'm also happy that both hips have scored the same and one isn't more out than the other too :thumbup: Just if people wonder Roo is neutered and wouldn't be bred from anyway, this was for peace of mind as I was a bit worried about him looking a bit stiff in his gait and not jumping very willingly but now all is well and I don't have to worry so much! Picking up the certificate later so will double check that but so pleased his elbows are OK and that his hips are below average!