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HELP - Cat going in to neighbours homes & fighting with their cats

Discussion in 'Cat Training and Behaviour' started by Melsiebells, Jun 17, 2019.


  1. Melsiebells

    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    New to this, so hello all. I have a 6yo Bengal cat, Lily. I had her for several years in the UK with no problems. In 2017 I moved to Holland for work. I had to find a place to live quickly and chose an apartment that I thought was suitable. Unfortunately on move-in day my landlord told me I wasn't allowed to let the cat outside at all, as they feared she would enter the café below. Lily has always gone outside, so I secretly let her outside at night when no one was around. In this time she was alone while I was at work and then out alone at night - not ideal especially for a Bengal. In this time she was obviously lonely and bored so went in to a neighbour's home looking for entertainment and got in to fights with her cat. I moved out as soon as my contract let me, and I bought a house in a more rural area with a lovely garden for her as she was used to in the UK. We have lived there happily for 4 months and all seemed back to normal, until yesterday she went missing and I eventually found that a neighbour had caught her. She said she had been coming in to her place for 2/3 weeks, causing great issues with her cat. I am so upset to find she still has this habit as I really thought things were sorted, in the home she has been calm and content. I know it is recommended for Bengals to be house cats, unfortunately I rescued her at a year old and she was already used to going outdoors, she is a nightmare if you keep her inside 24/7. I have considered getting another cat as company, I really don't think Lily is going in to other houses purposely looking for a fight, I think she just wants attention and obviously the cat living in the property reacts aggressively to her trespassing. I am however really cautious about this because other than the first year of her life Lily has not had to share her home with a second cat. Can someone advise maybe what kind of cat I should look for (age, breed, temperament) and how to go about introducing them? Aside from this, can anyone suggest an alternative solution to try?!
     
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    MilleD PetForums VIP

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    I'm not sure I would introduce another cat if she already has issues with any she comes across. Can you make a safe outside space for her?

    Also, do you entertain her enough and cater for her climbing and playing needs inside?
     
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    Unfortunately, Bengals are very prone to this, and she will be grately upsetting your neighbours. Bengals are very territorial, so I'm sorry to say it, but I suspect that she is going looking for the fight rather than the attention, as she is trying to claim that house as her own as well as yours. If you absolutely cannot keep her in, then you will need to cat proof your garden in order to keep her, and the other cats, safe. Bengals really shouldn't be allowed to roam freely no matter the circumstances, as, as lovely as they are (and I do genuinely love the breed), they really do cause havoc for other cats, people and wildlife. Is cat proofing an option? If not, could you make a temporary lean to catio out of aviary panels?
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    Hi there - yes we have quite the collection of trees and toys, we do make sure to give her lots of attention. As I mentioned, I never had these issues in the UK, it is purely since I found myself in the situation I described after first moving to Holland. We have 100s of cats in the area and she does not get in to fights with any of them, it is purely this one house. When she has gone to a cattery while we are on holiday she is loose with other cats and the staff have always said she hasn't been a problem with the other cats - hence why in this case I hoped it might be a solution.
     
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    MilleD PetForums VIP

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    Then I can't really help, sorry. Just wanted to say what an odd cattery you have access to!
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    I am aware of the issues bengals pose that other cats don't, however as I mentioned she never caused any issues in UK and in fact was always well liked by my neighbours. She doesn't hunt wildlife, I can't think how I would even begin to cat proof but I will look in to this, a catio may be an option! If not I was considering harness training however I did attempt when she was about 2 and she wasn't having it, obviously as well this doesn't solve her being lonely at home. She doesn't get in to fights with all the other cats sharing the area - its just this one lady she seems to have taken a shine to.
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    Standard in Holland, they all have their own pens and are allowed to socialise (if they aren't evil) in a communal area.
     
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    Hi @Melsiebells - I had a similar problem 8 yrs ago with one of my newly adopted rescue cats going into my neighbour's house and stealing the dry food she left down all day for her cats. This was upsetting my neighbour, and me too (as I didn't want my cat scoffing down dry food).

    The solution was that I offered to buy my neighbour a microchip cat flap for her back door to replace the non-chipped flap. She gratefully accepted and said she would pay a handyman to fit it.

    This was all done and dusted within a few days and that was the end of the problem. Good relationship between neighbour and myself was maintained. My cat gave up even trying to get in through the microchipped flap. :)
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    Hi there - great that's good to know as we also agreed to pay for the installation of a micro-chip cat flap for my neighbour! Lily is pretty smart though so I was concerned she would work out how to open it. I do suspect she will go looking elsewhere however it at least solves my issue with this lady!
     
  10. Ottery

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    I agree the solution is for the neighbour to get a microchip catflap. I am not quite as generous as chillminx and I would expect the neighbour to buy it themselves*, but if it solves the problem you may think it's worth buying it. However, once that house is blocked she will probably go looking for company/a fight (whatever it is she wants) in another cat owner's house so let's hope others have a microchip catflap or it'll get expensive!

    *I say this because I've had a microchip catflap myself for years, and before that had a magnet-operated one, because I didn't want other people's cats coming in. At our previous house, one of my cats used to go into a neighbour's house and intimidate her cats. He didn't fight them, he just ate their food and glared at them - as did another local cat. I didn't see it as my responsibility to fix that, and after two years of moaning about it she bought a microchip cat flap.

    It's unlikely Lily will be able to get past the microchip cat flap. I've had a Sureflap for years and never had an intruder.
     
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    How is Lily if she encounters the neighbour's cats outside (ie in their garden)?
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    I haven't actually had an opportunity to see. When I lived at my first place in Holland, there was another cat next door that just had kittens and she was obviously extremely protective/territorial at the time so unfortunately Lily and her fought awfully - she was agitated, I heard them often at night and you could feel all the scabs under her fur, another reason I chose to move. In my new place there are always cats around the neighbourhood wherever you look and I have not once heard her fighting, she has no scratches on her and is very chilled in the house so I assume she is not fighting with anyone. As I mentioned to another member, she has been socialised in a cattery in Holland where the cats are able to share a communal area. The first time she went she was not happy but didn't actually attack anyone. She has now stayed there 3 times and on the last occasion the staff reported she was fine with the other cats.
     
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    Melsiebells PetForums Newbie

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    Fab thanks for the advice. Unfortunately through fights Lily has caused them quite a bit of damage in the form of broken vases/ornaments so I feel its the least I can do!
     
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    @Ottery - it was actually in my interests to get my neighbour's door fitted with a microchipped flap a.s.a.p. as I did not want my cat eating dry food. He has IBD and dry food is very bad for him. Plus I wanted to maintain a good relationship with my neighbour whom I have known for 30 yrs.

    Luckily there are not many cats in my area so there was little chance of my cat finding another nearby house to get into and steal food. :)
     
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    Ottery, why would it not be your responsibility to buy your neighbor a means which would prevent your cat from entering her house uninvited? Your cat, your problem. Simple really.
     
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    @carly87
    It depends entirely on the situation. There was a history to this. This particular neighbour had a thuggish (neutered very late) cat who terrorised my cats. He tried to get into my house and was the reason I had the magnet cat flap, and subsequently the microchip catflap. It never occurred to me to ask my neighbour to pay for anything, and she never offered - it is my responsibility to keep my cats safe so I paid for the catflaps and all the vet bills when my cats were injured in fights with the thug. Thug cat was then killed on the road, and one of my cats matured and became the local dominant male. With that history there was absolutely no chance of me paying for a solution when the situation was reversed (plus, my cat was not the only intruder anyway).

    But in other cases, like the OP and Chillminx, I can see why they offered to pay.
     
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