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Heard the latest from Donald Trump

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Happy Paws2, Apr 24, 2020.


  1. O2.0

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    No actually I can't make heads or tails out of that article, it's an opinion piece and I really don't know enough about the insurance/pharmaceutical connection to understand what he's trying to do. If he does want to lower the cost of pharmaceuticals, great. Color me cynical, but somehow I think there is more to it than that.

    I do know about DACA though. I know many of these kids personally.
    Basically in the US there are hundreds of thousands of children who have been brought to this country illegally, without their knowledge, or understanding. They came with their parents as infants or very young children, grew up as Americans, speaking English, often not even knowing they were illegal immigrants until they needed to get a driver's licence or go to university.
    The way our immigration laws are set up, there is no way for these children to obtain legal residency let alone citizenship.
    What DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) does is essentially create a pathway to citizenship for those who choose higher education and/or military service. It's not easy to get in to the program and the process alone, which has to be repeated every 2 years, cost $495. It's not a 'free lunch' type deal, these kids jump through a lot of hoops and cough up serious cash to stay in the program.

    This is the program that Trump wants to get rid of, and did, in an executive order. However, the supreme court overruled him just last month and the DACA program is safe, for now.
    This is one of the few things in government that is nothing but 100% good. It doesn't hurt a soul, it helps these children who are at odds with immigration law through zero fault of their own, they work hard to get in the program and stay in the program and it makes sure that we are only giving legal residency and eventually citizenship to those who have shown themselves to be upstanding citizens. No rapist or drug dealers here ;)
    This is what Trump wants to get rid of. For no reason that I can tell other than sheer spite and meanness.

    What it has to do with our massively screwed up system of health insurance and cost of prescriptions, I have no idea.
     
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  2. Elles

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    Ah in that case I think he’s saying that he’s signed orders that lower the price of prescriptions and because he couldn’t get rid of DACA no one will be able to overturn this decision either.

    I wonder if cheaper prescriptions is his healthcare that’s better than Obamacare.
     
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    That's yesterday's news darlin:cool:

    The simple short answer is DT can't alter the date of the election, only congress as I understand it, can do that. The date has never been altered even during the Civil War or because of WW2. I doubt whether Donny is so stupid that he doesn't realise he doesn't have the power to alter the date. He's doing it so that he can scream "foul" when the result isn't what he wants it to be:rolleyes: He's so pathetic:Arghh

    The question was raised earlier this year when this article in The Atlantic was published.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...e-2020-election-here-s-what-constitution-says

    Can Trump Delay the 2020 Election? Here's What the Constitution Says
    If the president’s lawyers gin up an argument that he can, we will be witness to authoritarianism in its defining form.
     
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    Sorry . . . hadn't seen it previously posted.
     
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    I still don't understand how anyone could have voted for him in the first place and I dread the thought that people will be daft enough to vote for him again.
     
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    I imagine many people said the same thing about Hitler:(
     
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    It was Donald or Hillary. Like we had Bojo or Corbyn. I guess at the time DT seemed like the lesser of two evils (the Devil or the deep blue sea)? Who knows? People scoffed at the idea he would get in last time - like they ridiculed Farage for even daring to think UK would vote out - I remember him saying: ''You're not laughing at me now, are you?''. It will be very interesting to see though. Think I might be vaguely interested in it this time.
     
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    Seriously? :eek:

    Et tu, Brute. :(
     
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    ?


    Seriously what? :confused::confused:
     
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    Hitler... :Bag
     
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    My post was in answer to @happy Paws 2 quote which says ........

    I replied to the effect that I was sure there were people in Germany who couldn't understand how anyone could have voted for and supported Hitler, some even right up to the end .

    Sorry to disappoint you if you thought I was implying something deep and sinister ............. I wasn't!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    I didn't think that, but he is a worry isn't he.
     
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    And Trump is now saying he will ban the popular social media platform Tik Tok.
    Interesting.
    He doesn't like being 'censored' on social media, but he's going to ban an entire platform?
    If he manages that he might just piss off enough young voters to get them to the polls.
     
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    I know you didn't and I wasn't referring to you in my reply. :)

    I agree with you he is a worry and I hate to think what he'll do if he;s elected for a second term!
     
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    The first think the bloody idiot will do is boast how the election was the fairest ever in history of the USA, no other election has ever been as fair is this one, never, ever, period! :)
     
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    I think it's because it's Chinese owned and Trump amongst others believes it's being used to spy on the US

    Just heard on CNN that Microsoft are negotiating to buy TikTok and might seal the deal by Sunday.

    If not and the platform is closed, as you say, it will piss off lots of young voters and I personally will miss Kellyanne Conway's daughter's comments about her mother's role as one of Trump's advisors.:p
     
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    I thought it implied that voting for Trump is as bad as voting for Hitler. :eek: I’d vote for Trump if I lived in America. I don’t think he’s anything like as bad as Hitler, I would think that’s the other side if anything and I don’t think that either. :p
     
  19. O2.0

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    Geebus!! Thank gawd you don't!

    Biden is at least human, and if he picks a decent running mate even better.
     
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    I’m more towards a free market capitalist, than a socialist, so ofc I wouldn’t vote for Biden. :cool: I would have voted for Obama, although I was disappointed with a few things he said and did, I still think he was an excellent president of good standing, with much about him to be admired. I’m not into the current social justice narratives. I think they’re divisive and hateful. I’ve not taken a huge amount of notice of American politics, but I know I’m a republican, not a democrat now. :p
     
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