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Discussion in 'Dog Breeding' started by foxyroxy1979, May 3, 2011.


  1. foxyroxy1979

    foxyroxy1979 PetForums Junior

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    Hi everyone, it's been a while since I was here last but been so busy. The pups are growing well now (4 weeks old) and walking quite well. I have bad news about one of them though. I noticed she wasn't breathing well at times so took her to the vets today and an x ray has shown that her rib cage hasn't developed properly. Instead of being almost tube like it is a more flattened shape. I'm waiting for the vet to speak to a specialist and call me later today but she said she wasn't sure if there was much that could be done for her and it was possible she may have to be put down but She also did say that pup may develop enough to live her life but she would need to be in an environment where she wouldn't have too much excitement. I'm feel so sad for her and so anxious to hear back from the vet. It doesn't seem to be a severe case however as she has been the first out of the litter to walk properly and she is playing with her sisters still. Has anyone ever had this happen before?
     
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    Is she flat across her chest or flat down her sides?

    If its the first she is described as a swimmer pup, it might help you to learn more about it.
    Swimmer Puppy is a fantastic site
     
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    foxyroxy1979 PetForums Junior

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    yes she's flat chested across. I've been reading up on it and she's got pectus excavatum. I'm taking her to one side to feed on mum at the moment and laying her on her side when she feeds. I'm hoping this may help open up the rib cage a little. I've still not heard from the vet yet and keep leaving messages but I really hope there's a chance that she'll grow out of it, if that's at all a possibility. She's been walking around and playing well so I wonder if the fact that she's on her feet now will mean there is less pressure on her chest. I couldn't bear the thought of her having to be put to sleep.
     
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    Yes it will help. Vets are very ignorant about the condition, but providing correct mnagement, many go on to lead completely normal lives
     
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    foxyroxy1979 have the vet phoned you yet? ive never heard of the condition so im interested to learn more about it. hope all end well :D
     
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    Vet got back to me but she's still waiting for the specialist to get back to her. She agreed that as she's is practically acting the same as her sisters ie playing and walking around that that is a really good sign. I mentioned to her about the sock treatment and she's now put doubt in my head that if I do it wrong I'll make things worse so now I'm not sure I should do it now. Argh just when I think I can do something to help.....
     
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    Tanya I didn't quite do the sock method but used a legwarmer instead. I just made sure the holes put her arm in a position that she couldn't lie on her belly. I managed to converse with the lady from your link and she was really helpful also. Poor little thing though. I feel so much better after reading all the success stories. Will keep you updated.
     

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    good luck with the little one x
     
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    just want to wish you well with the little pup, hopefully with management and time she will live a reasonable good and normal life!
     
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    Pleased to hear you have done the sock method. I didn't want to tell you to do this, but secretly wanted you to do it and I'm pleased you have :)
     
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    well done op for doing the best for the little one :thumbup:
     
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    good luck with the baby
     
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    Awww gorgeous pup, hope she lives a long and healthy life x
     
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    It's wonderful that you're doing everything you can for this special little puppy!

    I know it's not the same, but I took on a pup with a serious heart defect, she wasn't expected to live more than a few months - she's 2 in a fortnight!! She's an absolute sweetheart and we treasure every moment we have her :)
    They truly are treasures! :001_wub:
     
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    Thank you ladies for all your messages of support it's really kept my chin up. Its now day 4 since I went to the vets and her chest already feels more rounded. But its not even 4 full days and you know when you doubt yourself and think is it just my imagination?! She hasn't cried at all in this time so there must be some difference. I can still hear her having trouble with her breathing but it's only sometimes and her chest doesn't seem to be heaving like it did before. The vet called back yesterday and the specialist said about an operation using a cast to pull her sternum out more but I couldn't put a 4 week old puppy through that especially when I think she is improving. Is it likely that after only 4 days her chest could be changing?
     
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    I really wouldn't go down any route requiring a cast on such a tiny pup. 4 days is a little early for noticing a change, its normally a week before you notice any, but the fact that you are noticing a change in her personality is a good sign: its obviously easing her discomfort.

    TBH, as harsh as it sounds, but if the problem can't be corrected with the sock then I would be considering euthanasia, but luckily things seem to be going in the right direction.

    I certainly wouldn't like to test the cast theory, the psychological damage as well as the physical problems down the line. Anyone who has ever broken a leg or arm and had a cast on, knows just how weak the muscles are once the cast comes off, its not something I would want to risk around the ribcage, after all, those muscles are necessary for breathing.

    The hygiene factor also has to be taken into account. Imagine the dirt that would accumulate under the cast after just a few days. :eek:
     
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