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Guard/watch dog breed advice

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Jj2020, Aug 2, 2020.


  1. Jj2020

    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    hi i’m looking to buy a puppy/rescue dog . am a single woman so want a breed that will guard the home (as well as be a companion). It’s small and has a back garden.

    I have a 2 yr old female chihuahua she gets along with dogs. have experience owning medium sized breeds but haven’t owned a large guarding breed (obviously plan to socialise the dog and train it as all dogs should be)

    Would like a puppy so I can raise it to be safe and gentle with my chihuahua.

    Have considered Rottweiler, Bullmastiff, Great Dane or staffie (though have been told staffies aren’t good guards)
    Some female Rottweilers are lovely but am worried I won’t be able to excercise a rottie enough, as can dogwalk for 1hr on a weekday

    Any advice please
     
  2. Sairy

    Sairy PetForums VIP

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    Hi there, are you in the UK? If so then I would be wary about buying a dog for the purpose of guarding your home as it is very easy to fall foul of the Dangerous Dogs Act (DDA) if you aren't careful. If you mean that you just want a dog to alert you when someone is on your property then lots of dogs will do this.

    The breeds you have mentioned (apart from a staffy) are large breeds and could easily hurt your chihuahua, even just in play, so that is something to bear in mind too.

    I don't think that 1 hour of physical exercise during weekdays should be an issue for most adult dogs, but it will depend on what other things they are doing during the day (e.g. what training you will be doing, what other forms of stimulation they will get etc.).

    Apart from being a good watchdog, what other attributes are you looking for in a dog?
     
  3. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    I have three dogs and our chihuahua is the biggest watchdog of them all!
    He hears the slightest noise which then starts our terrier off.
    A large dog doesn't mean a guard dog. Our neighbours have GSD who don't make a sound and a good friend of mine had a doberman who has slept through 4 burglaries
     
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  4. Arny

    Arny PetForums Senior

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    Just having a dog will be a good enough deterrent for most.

    I had a Staffy x from rescue and agree he would have been useless as a guard dog, I could probably count on two hands the number of times he barked in 15 years but then I don't like barky dogs so we may have inadvertently trained him. He also loved anyone and everyone.
     
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    Any size dog is a burglar deterrent, if that’s what you’re looking for. Most intruders are opportunistic, and would move on if they hear a dog bark, rather than break in to see how big it is.

    The breeds you’ve mentioned can all be difficult in their own ways, and a true ‘guarding’ breed brings a whole new level of difficulty: Who to guard? What to guard? When to guard? Who decides?

    I have been ragged round a room, Schutzund-style, by a GSD who decided I shouldn’t be in his house, despite me having been invited in by the owner.
     
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    Duggee PetForums Member

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    I know that if someone were to approach our house, our Labrador would bark and sound pretty scary to anyone outside. Certainly enough to make them think twice about trying to break in anyway.

    If they made it inside, they might get licked to death.

    I don’t think a specific guard dog is necessary, or even a good idea. Is it even legal in the UK? You should get a dog you want as a pet over any guard dog capabilities. As previous posters have said, any dog will be a deterrent to an opportunist burglar, regardless of size.
     
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    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    Guard dog is a legal term with laws attached, so calling your dog a guard dog if anything did happen would land you in hot water with the law. How about just getting a dog you actually like and is a good fit with you little Chi? A nice JRT would suffice, or maybe a Mini Schnauzer as they can be noisy little sausages!
     
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    rottieboys PetForums Senior

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    My son has a French Bull dog, believe me she is good. She lets the family know who is around. As for Rottweiler, I have had 6, not all at once. Got Elsa and Dexter right now...They can be hard work. Training is a must. Good luck with what ever breed you are after...
     
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  9. Jj2020

    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    Yes I’m in the UK, my relative has a guard dog for his garage so am aware of the title , what I mean is a dog with guarding abilities for the home but as I said a single person am looking for something - basically a watch dog that has some factors that people can see would make a burglar think twice..

    I agree that one hour for some dog maybe not enough (plus a morning walk) but some dogs like bulldogs require very little. On weekends I go hiking and my chi can’t keep up.

     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    A frenchie makes a lovely pet! Am looking for something a bit bigger as unpleasant people round here aren’t deterred by frenchies , actually steal them and resell :(

    With a rottie do you think a female or Male would be best with a female chi? I have super known lovely female ones but hear some breeds get along better opposite sex.

    How much training do you suggest? After puppyhood and basics I mean.

     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    No thank you that’s not what I’m looking for.


     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    I agree my chi is great at being a watch dog
    If only I could find a larger version of her! Unfortunately a chi isn’t big enough to be a deterrent on sight and many have been stolen that I know during burglaries :(

     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    To guard/watch the home I agree a barking dog is a deterrent but sadly many dogs are not a deterrent enough.. especially when people view properties over time to decide when to break in which also happens.

     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    Honestly I asked for advice on dog breeds not for people to judge if I should need one or not! There are many breeds bred that are lovely dogs that have guarding abilities I don’t understand why you think that a bull breed is bad it’s the owner not the dog.

     
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    Jj2020 PetForums Newbie

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    exactly this about staffies! They are lovely dogs though so perhaps their looks would be enough of a deterrent. I am more concerned about raising it with my chihuahua so she doesn’t get accidently hurt as have never owned chihuahua and a (fairly heavy) medium sized dog at the same time.


     
  16. Jj2020

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    Just like to say am getting a lot of flack for mentioning guarding and watchdog abilities when everyone knows that some breeds excel at this! My questions are was on introduction with a tiny breed like a chihuahua and those breeds specifically.

    Please reply with advice on how the breeds are (with small dogs esp) rather than discussion on on crime and theft.
     
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    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

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    Unfortunately on a public forum you can’t dictate what responses you receive.

    Replies are also for the benefit of anyone else searching online for a similar or related topic and members will give often give advice and opinions which cover all eventualities.

    If you ask about guard/watch dogs then there’s a lot to consider.

    No reputable rescue would home a dog under that heading, I’m sure.

    Tbh you might be better off buying a good alarm system and improving the security of your home ;)

    If you want a large, friendly family dog from a rescue then it’s best to go along and meet the dogs and find one that suits your needs and clicks with you and your family/dog etc.

    My own rescue sighthound has a very loud bark but has only used it about 6 times in 8 years at a squirrel or cat yet he wouldn’t bat an eyelid if a person came in the house.
     
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    I have two boxer boys. They do not bark constantly but do alert if someone comes to the house. In my last house I had a front door you had to lock from the inside. I forgot once and a man walked in ! Sox sat up woofed once and the fella left quickly.

    He also woofed at some people breaking into my neighbours car and they ran off. (From in the house my sister called the police) I do feel safe with them because they are a deterrent.

    As puppy’s they are very cute and do get a lot of attention and would be prime targets for puppy theft. The cost of a boxer has doubled in lockdown.

    However in a real burglary they would be very scared and I would rather my TV went than the boys.

    I should think if raised properly with a Chi they would be ok but it would be play I’d be worried about incase they squished a smaller dog. They like a good walk and lots of cuddles. Not an outdoor dog at all they get cold.

    Oh and as a general rule sox doesn’t guard after 8pm as he’s asleep.
     
  19. Smalldogs

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    Have another think about smaller breeds. Best guard dog we ever had was a longcoat Chihuahua who chased one would-be burglar over the fence and came back with a piece of his trousers, and also trapped another terrified burglar on top of a shed. And he was the least visual deterrent you could imagine - chocolate-box pretty. But personally I would recommend a terrier - great guards, and a better size to mix with your existing Chi.

    Incidentally, surprised your Chi can't cope with hikes. All our Chihuahuas have enjoyed ten-mile walks without showing any signs of not being able to go further.
     
  20. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    That's interesting, my little fella will walk miles given the opportunity.

    Smaller dogs can have a bark that belies their size. Also please bear in mind that you have to share a house with a dog that barks and from personal experience, it can and does get tiresome.
    One of the people on our estate has an airedale, he is massive, like a donkey and barks All. The. Time he has a really deep voice that can be heard for some distance. They live a fair way from us but we can hear him clearly.
    I would suggest, regardless of breed that you work hard on training them to bark only when you want them to
     
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