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French Bulldog problems

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by The Wild Bunch, Aug 28, 2020.


  1. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    Bit of a sad post. In the last 3 weeks, two friends have had to have their French Bulldogs put to sleep.

    The first one had loads of problems, was a tiny scrap of a dog and grew no bigger than a 12 week puppy. He was allergic to everything and could barely walk. The breeder gave the owners all of their money back as he was unlikely to live long. He was PTS at 5 months old. Another friend lost their frenchie yesterday. He had problems with his spine which they knew about but became very unwell at the weekend and was PTS yesterday at the age of three. When will their be a crackdown on these unethical breeders who breed purely for money and when will consumers switch on to the horror stories of these designer breeds living a miserable life and having an early death?
     
  2. Boxer123

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    I think sadly until demand drops the unethical breeders will get around the rules.
     
  3. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    True. There should be more done to police breeders. There are a couple of women near me who claim benefits and churn out litters of english and french Bulldogs. Clearly far easier doing that than actually having a job :Rage
     
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    Boxer123 PetForums VIP

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    I’ve been approached a few times by people wanting to know if I would use sox as a stud. Just off the street crazy.
     
  5. Lurcherlad

    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

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    Report them to the Tax Man and Trading Standards ;)
     
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  6. Sarah H

    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    Exactly what I was going to say. And the local council as they will need a breeder's licence if they get more than £1000 income from breeding.
     
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  7. picaresque

    picaresque Mongrelist

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    We should have laws against this sort of torture breeding as they do in some parts of Europe.

    I'm getting increasingly horrified by the kind of flashy business-breeders that seem to be proliferating too. The ones who operate from their suburban home so aren't really classed as puppy farms, who make their living entirely from their dogs and seem to make it a whole lifestyle with an image they try to project. It probably really began with the Frenchie craze, and they've now diversified into 'rare colour' bulldogs and dachshunds (and American Bullies which is a whole other thread). Take a look on pets4homes or instagram and there are so many breeding some combination of the above, often all four at the same time. All breeds that are very expensive to buy, and all high risk for serious health problems. It's gross but hey it pays for these breeders' tacky homes and sports cars. I hate how dogs are now so commodified and exploited.
     
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    100% agree
     
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  9. Rubyritz09

    Rubyritz09 PetForums Junior

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    Yup! As you know I have a frenchie and he’s over 1 and the allergies are shocking!! His dad was health tested, the mom wasn’t.
    His nostrils are ok but his soft palette is awful and can walk for 15mins without being totally out of breath.

    Even with research I think nothing really prepares you for a frenchie until you own one. I didn’t know half the problems until I came onto forums. Websites online make
    Out they live until 8-10years. I don’t know many that live past 4/5
     
  10. The Wild Bunch

    The Wild Bunch Owner of dogs and referee of children

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    But they should be living long and healthy lives. I believe they were a very healthy breed living to 13 and beyond prior to the surge in popularity. I didn't know anybody who owned one 6 years ago. Now they're ten a penny and dead by five years old.

    The breed club stand at crufts was full of owners wanting breed club secretaries to help them because they had a chronically poorly dog. One lady on the stand was obviously weary with it all and basically said breed clubs are available to offer help and advice prior to the purchase, not to pick up the pieces afterwards when it's all gone Pete tong.

    It must be utterly heartbreaking to see a breed that you've worked with for decades end up like this
     
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  11. O2.0

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    Anyone who is breeding dogs who can't function in normal doggy lives should be ashamed. But I also blame people who choose dogs based on looks to the detriment of function. Social media is full of people gushing over 'cute' pushed-in faces and dogs who can't breathe without making noise - also labeled 'cute' :rolleyes: How warped and/or ignorant do you have to be to find struggling to breathe noises appealing?

    It's interesting too that it's only some breeds who have had all normal function bred out of them. Other breeds have remained functional and within the breed there is all sorts of thought and effort put in to improving the breed's function and overall health and fitness.
     
  12. Sarah H

    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    You can get an operation that opens up his airways by removing the extra soft palette tissue, and widening the nares. This in turn reduces the strain on the lungs and heart allowing them to breath properly and live longer healthier lives. If you have the money for it I suggest getting your vet to have a look and see if they can help.
     
  13. Rubyritz09

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    Yes we most likely will have too. However, will be finding a specialist first to assess him as the operation is risky and wouldn’t trust just any vet to do it.

    The issue is with frenchies now is to get the rare colours they have had to cross breed at some point. Now my boy is older he looks more bulldog than anything. He’s small and compact whereas my friends frenchie is tall and long legged but he cannot breathe at all and is only 9months but his nares are that tight! It is a shame. That’s why we chose the health tested parents but most people just breed for the money without doing any tests!
     
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    Why there is high demand for in fashion breeds there will always be inscrutable breeders it's easy money for them.
     
  15. Nonnie

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    Ive said it before, but i think its about time insurance companies stop covering the likes of frenchies, pugs and bulldogs. Too many people rely on insurance bailing out their decision to buy a dog almost guaranteed to have health issues.

    They already exclude various breeds due to the associated costs, mainly third party, but no reason they shouldnt based on conformational issues.

    Why should those of us who choose to have functional pets have to pay higher premiums to cover the deformed?
     
  16. Freyja

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    If you suspect someone is churning out puppies to make money then report them to your local council and the tax man.

    Last year I had a letter from the council saying I was breeding pups to make money I pointed out that my last litter of pups were over 2 years old and I had no bitches either of breeding age or of a size that I would consider breeding. When I asked were the pups had been advertised I was told I was advertising on here even down to them knowing my user name but couldn't tell me what breeds I owned. Needless to say they were quickly put straight as to the fact this is a discussion forum and advertising puppies was not allowed.

    Eventually we discovered that my neighbour had seen me taking dogs out of my house and putting them into my friends car on a regular basis as in most weekends. Because we always carried the dogs out and put them into her car they assumed they were puppies that didn't walk on leads in actual fact they were my friends Pomeranians that were coming to my house to be bathed and groomed ready for shows. The next day they then saw these dogs come back and be put into my van if they had looked out later in the day they would have also seen the same dogs coming home being taken out of the van and put back into her car.

    I always said I would never put this on here as I don't know who it was who apparently comes on here and knows all about me or thinks they do. The reason I have is because I agree with what people have said about bad breeder churning out sick puppies to make money especially at the moment with people buying puppies during the lockdown and prices rising so high but at the same time you need to have proof they are actually breeding pups if you go and view pups from them or see they are advertising regulary then yes report them but just seeing people put dogs into a car means nothing none of the dogs we put into my friends car were pups they were all older show dogs but heavy coated breeds that were carried because we didn't want them to get dirty after having a bath.
     
  17. Burrowzig

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    If only they had such little monetary value, the rubbish greeders wouldn't bother with them.
     
  18. Arny

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    Petplan said they don't allow new policies to be taken out for Shar Pei over the age of 5 (not from rescue).
    Presumably it's because they've not accrued the funds from the first 5 years before they really start costing them money.
     
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