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Discussion in 'Dog Breeding' started by Lou G, Jan 17, 2018.
Hello, has anyone bought a puppy/dog from Florie Bell Pups in the Warrington area?
No, & after Googling I wouldn't advise anyone buy from them- they have all the signs of being a puppy farm- licenced (meaning they will breed at least 4 litters a year & probably a lot more), breeding several different breeds & fashionable crossbreeds, no mention of health testing except that one stud dog has some but not all tests recommended for the breed, no information whatsoever on the bitches, lots of cute puppy pictures on their homepage to draw people in.
They seem to be breeding a heck of a lot of pups and most of them Crossbreeds that command a high price.
Looks very much like a puppy farming setup to me.
I wouldn't buy from them.
Thank you for replying
No personal experience but I can you I wouldn't touch them with someone else's barge pole.
They've done only the most minimal (read: cheapest but looks conscientious) health testing on their CKCS stud but there's no MRI for CM/SM, no eye testing
He's sired over thirty CKCS litters in the last three years alone (and no doubt plenty more crossbreed ones as well) and all the CKCS bitches he's been used on have little or no health testing in place at all.
He was first used at stud before he was even a year old and some of the bitches were first used when they were less then two years old meaning they're clearly not following the recommended protocols for avoiding MVD.
It's essentially a small scale (they're licensed to keep seven breeding bitches) puppy farm, churning out litters without much consideration given to health despite the breeds they're using being prone to some devastating conditions.
Perhaps if you say what sort of dog you are looking for, someone might be able to advise you on what sort of things to look for and what to avoid?
There will be lots of Xmas pups in rescue in the next few weeks.
What! I just don't understand people
Do not even think about getting a dog from here. I found out the hard way! My beautiful little dog died in May this year aged 4. At 12 weeks of age he had a bowel problem that need operating on. They dicovered that he had C difficile, compala bacta and various other gut problems that the vet said he must have contracted the infections at a very young age. A few months later he had difficulties walking and kept yelping. Further investigations proved that he had Syringomyelia. This is a congenital condition that the parents should have been tested for and definatly not used to breed. After two spinal surgeries we had to let him go. I now have three very sad children who have watched their lovely furbaby suffer and eventually die. We are all devestated.
This is awful, so sorry you lost your pup
If you have evidence from your vets that his problems were the result of poor breeding, report the breeders to trading standards.
Of course, any conscientious Breeder would test for this condition prior to breeding but, sadly, health tests are not a legal requirement.
Really, anyone buying a Cavalier or Cavalier Cross pup should ask the Breeder for evidence that the parents have been tested.
Very much a case of Buyer Beware.
Breeders need to really consider the future of this breed.
Yes I bought a cavalier King Charles spaniel, the breeder was very helpful and our puppy was checked out by the vet and she said she was perfect
We have just brought one to. Looks beautiful. The day we took her home she started to cough. Spoke with the breeder she showed little concern. Took the puppy to my vet. Wrong micro chip implanted 2 vets used for vaccination ear mites worms and a cough that is causing the vet some concerns. His opinion is puppy farm bred. Tried to contact breeder not taking my calls and not responding to my texts.
I have no knowledge of this breeder who clearly breeds Cavaliers and Cavalier crosses of all descriptions but I will say that anyone who still buys a Cavalier King Charles or Cavalier x from parents that are not health tested is crazy and they are taking a massive chance with their new puppies health and welfare. There is enough information around now to enable buyers to make an informed choice.
Your puppy was obviously lucky.
I wonder how her mum's doing......
Also I assume she’s only a puppy. Hardly conclusive that she must be healthy from a vet check as sad and unfortunate as that is.
Hope she has a happy and healthy life however
I bought my pup from this lady last month. I should of done my research and only just seen all this. Now I am worried something could be wrong with him. I did take him to the vets when I first got him and was told everything looked okay. But I may need to get further tests done to make sure everything is okay.
I does say on the site that I got him off that the parents had been tested. I should of known when I went to get my dog that something was dodgy coz I did not see any the parents in the house.