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  1. Tom1992

    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm new to this forum so hello to everyone. I have been reading the sticky threads and thought I'd dive in and join the forum.

    I currently do not own a dog, but I plan on changing this as I am a dog lover. I grew up with a police attack dog which was a German Shepard which was then retired and became the family dog, he was such a soft and loving dog. We also had a Jack Russell after the Shepard passed away :(. The Jack Russell was a rescue dog and was another loving dog.

    I have now since moved away from home and my girlfriend is coming around to letting me have a dog.

    I have a full time job but I am able to go home every day at least twice for a hour or more at a time during work hours. I generally work no later than 4 pm so I won't be away from the house all that long for work. My girlfriend also won't be away all the time with work.

    I'm a very active and fit person, I often run and go hill walking and love being outdoors. Often my weekends are spent in the woods or on a beach walking and generally being active.

    I'm looking for a real loyal companion who is caring and loves affection. I have the time and patience to train and exercise a dog.so a dog who can learn and be obedient is a plus. I don't mind dogs that shed moderately and I prefer medium to large dogs.

    I was wondering if you can guide me towards any breeds good for myself and any advice for a first timer would be great . Personally I love labs, Belgian mals, German shepards, GSP and dobermans.

    Cheers guys.

    Tom
     
  2. labradrk

    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    Quite a range of breeds there......

    I'd always recommend Labs as an all round user friendly breed, especially as a first time owner. They are fairly foolproof, quiet, all weather, non extreme in physical type AND personality, biddable, and are usually good with people and other dogs. Likewise with Golden Retrievers.

    GSP's are very good dogs but they are also HPR's and by default are more challenging than the more handler dependant retriever breeds. If you really familiarise yourself with the breed and their traits, purchase from a good breeder, and go into it with eyes wide open, then it's not a wild idea getting one as a first time dog. But personally I'd go for a retriever.....

    I would not recommend a GSD or Dobermann as a first time dog, and definitely not a Belgian Malinois.

    Because you will be in and out of the house, I honestly think you couldn't go far wrong looking for an adult rescue that is perhaps used to spending some time alone. As well as a retriever types I don't think you can go far wrong with Staffie or Staffie type cross, both of which there are an abundance of in rescue. Going for a slightly older dog (and I do not necessarily mean an old dog, there are plenty of 6, 7, 8+ month old pups in rescue!) you avoid the tricky puppy stage and can go straight into (gradual) exercising.
     
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  3. Tom1992

    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    I do love retrievers and that's what I'm swaying towards. I have the option of getting a puppy from a good breeder or getting one around 5-6 years old once they retire from a military bomb search unit.

    I have worked alongside with mals and retrievers and I love both breeds, but I don't fancy owning a mal, they are just beautiful dogs.
     
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    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    Are you a member of the Armed Forces then by any chance.....?

    A 5-6 year old retired dog would clearly be more user friendly. Puppies not so much and they are pretty intensive, at least for the first 6 months.
     
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    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    Yea
    Yeah I am, and I agree that the older dog would be more user friendly as they are all house trained and already well trained in obedience stuff, amongst other things. I know the dogs too and they are just awesome.
     
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    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    Either would work really, clearly pups will be a lot more labour intensive :)
     
  7. Tom1992

    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    Yeah I have read a lot about labs going through a chewing phase, but I also read that this can be stopped by plenty of chew toys and keeping them occupied.

    The thing with a puppy is how long would I need to take off work to get him settled in the home, train him a little and get him used to the environment. ?
     
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    Apart from your requirements for "moderate shedding" I would say a GSD from strong nerved, sociable lines would suit. GSDs tend to shed all year round and blow their coat twice a year. As you grew up with a general purpose police dog, you are familiar with the breed and no doubt know the amount of socialising, training and exercise a shepherd needs. The only thing I would be wary of is the amount of hours your dog might be left on a daily basis - and you might be better looking for an older dog that is already house-trained and used to spending time alone rather than a puppy. Sometimes breeders have older dogs that have been returned for one reason or another or they might have an older pup that they have run on for work or show who might not be quite what they are looking for. I bought my current working line GSD at 8 months of age when the breeder felt he didn't have enough natural aggression for IPO. He is now six years and is my "dog of a lifetime", so don't think you can't bond with an older dog.

    You may already know that GSDs come in various shapes, sizes, colours and types. This article might help you decipher which you prefer and which might best suit your needs and lifestyle ...
    http://www.wildhauskennels.com/gsdtypes.htm
     
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    Moobli PetForums VIP

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    Sounds like the perfect solution to get a retired search dog.
     
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    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    I can certainly remember how much exercise he needed, would always want to be active. And I definitely remember how much he shed which was a lot.
     
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    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    I think this is what I'd do, after all there hard work I think a loving home is well deserved
     
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    We have a lab.... we was very lucky and she never chewed any furniture..... but my husband was able to take a year out of work to be with her so plenty of interaction and teaching.
    The other thing to remember with a puppy is they should only walk 5 minutes for each month of age so a 2 month would get 10 minutes and do on building up to a year...then unrestricted. If you are very active with running and walking a puppy wouldn't be able to do this for a fair while do maybe the slightly older dog that can exercise unrestricted would be a better fruit?
     
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    Having a bomb squad dog sounds pretty damn cool lol

    But seriously it does sound like a perfect fit and besides, it is just soldiers that should have a comfortable retirement, the dog deserves one as well
     
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    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    Yeah I can certainly see your point there. I just would like the experience and bond to raise the puppy up, would a older dog make the same bond?
     
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    Whatever you choose you must be a joint decision and a dog that you can both manage.

    If you have not owned a dog before then it is best to be realistic about what breeds may not be the best choice.

    Dobermanns can be quite flighty and you rarely see any anymore in Obedience, Working Trials, IPO or working as police or military dogs, not sure what has happened to the breed in general in the UK.

    A GSD from sound, health tested working lines may be a good choice but even my very short coated WL GSD used to shed like a sheep.

    I would strongly suggest that you avoid a Malinois, particularly the WL ones, they are mentally and physically incredibly fast which means they really are for the serious hobby dog owner.

    A WL labrador may fit your lifestyle very well but boy do THEY shed!

    A GSP may be the exact fit for you I think.
     
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    Tom1992 PetForums Newbie

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    I haven't had any experience with the GSP at all. Ill have to do a bit of research and see what they are like, obviously I know they are beautiful dogs.
     
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    Absolutely :)
     
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    I've grown up around Belgian Shepherds (not Malinois though) and I have a serious interest in the breed. I hope to one day own and breed, but at the moment I have the privilege of visiting my nan and her nutty Belgian Groenendael a couple of times a week (most weeks).
    I know a fair few Malinois owners, and often go to shows, where I see my nan's friends who own Mali's and there are some very manic ones. You can get some calmer Mali's from certain lines, but in general, many of them are more or less working dogs and need a lot of mental and physical stimulation.
    Is it appearance that draws you to a Malinois because the Tervuren is probably more suited to your lifestyle (although they are definitely not first time dogs)?
     
  19. Meezey

    Meezey Slave to the Black & Tans and the Trundle Bugs.

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    Hi good luck I think adult retired AES dog would be fantastic :) just one thing to consider if adult dog has been kenneled than you have to think about how they will settle as a house dog ( if that's what you want) and house training. Also if you are fit and active a) puppy will need to be a fair bit older before it joins you and b) older dog may not be so fit if medically retired :)
     
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    They are kennelled but are house trained, the handlers often keep them in there own houses if they are looking after them. They usually retire them once they aren't so good at searching any more. The last one retired at 5 and apparently that's the age they usually get retired.
     
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