Hi All, We have had Jasmine and Sully (renamed from Jafar as he was not evil enough ) for the last 2 weeks they are 9 weeks old today! We made a bit of a mistake with them initially as we were keeping them in an enclosure but then they escaped one night and we thought sod it we will let them stay out, this was a mistake as they started hiding in the sofa and not interacting with us and started going backwards from the progress we had made in the first few days. So I caught them again and we put them back into the sealed enclosure so that we could make sure they interacted with us. They have been in the enclosure now since last Monday and I feel like we are making progress with them, I took them to the vets and Sully had worms and they both had fleas so we got a spray on flea treatment and gave them the horrible worming meds for 3 days (they were not amused) and i started their vaccinations, Sully was 1kg and Jasmine was 1.5kg (guessing that was the worms stealing his nutrients?) they will be getting frontline or some thing beginning with B the vet said was good when they go for their 2nd vaccinations at the start of Aug Now they have been in the enclosure for a week they seem to have calmed down and we are talking to them and feeding them meals rather than free feeding, this seems to have made them more sociable with us and this morning Jasmine let me pick her up and she looked up at me did her first purr when I was stroking her in my arms (I was so happy ) Sully seems a bit more timid and has let me hold him but not for long and he still hisses occasionally and has the odd swipe at me! Spicy little git! I get them out of the enclosure and into a cage so they can see me better and i can see them i saw it on a youtube video calling it a social box, they play and and eat in there and i sit with them for every meal. Today whilst doing this Jasmine escaped but did not run and hide, she was taunting Sully who was in the social box then i managed to get her to go back into the enclosure with some creative scratching! I have a few things I wanted some advice on as people were so nice when I posted last time: 1) Am I doing anything wrong with them, obviously i let them out initially too early but i have them secure now, any tips or advice on what to do to get them to trust me more etc 2) Has anyone had luck with pheromones i was wondering about getting a spray but not sure if they are are any good etc, will that calm sully down a bit and make him more open to interactions 3) I saw a video about early neutering etc, what do people think about getting them neutered early liek at 10 weeks, i really don't want them reproducing 4) When do you know to let them out 5) any other tips and tricks you guys know to help us in our journey.