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Feral Kittens - Update!

Discussion in 'Cat Training and Behaviour' started by Jasmine & Jafar, Jul 19, 2020.


  1. Jasmine & Jafar

    Jasmine & Jafar PetForums Newbie

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    Hi All,

    We have had Jasmine and Sully (renamed from Jafar as he was not evil enough :D) for the last 2 weeks they are 9 weeks old today!

    We made a bit of a mistake with them initially as we were keeping them in an enclosure but then they escaped one night and we thought sod it we will let them stay out, this was a mistake as they started hiding in the sofa and not interacting with us and started going backwards from the progress we had made in the first few days.

    So I caught them again and we put them back into the sealed enclosure so that we could make sure they interacted with us. They have been in the enclosure now since last Monday and I feel like we are making progress with them, I took them to the vets and Sully had worms and they both had fleas so we got a spray on flea treatment and gave them the horrible worming meds for 3 days (they were not amused) and i started their vaccinations, Sully was 1kg and Jasmine was 1.5kg (guessing that was the worms stealing his nutrients?) they will be getting frontline or some thing beginning with B the vet said was good when they go for their 2nd vaccinations at the start of Aug

    Now they have been in the enclosure for a week they seem to have calmed down and we are talking to them and feeding them meals rather than free feeding, this seems to have made them more sociable with us and this morning Jasmine let me pick her up and she looked up at me did her first purr when I was stroking her in my arms (I was so happy :p) Sully seems a bit more timid and has let me hold him but not for long and he still hisses occasionally and has the odd swipe at me! Spicy little git!

    I get them out of the enclosure and into a cage so they can see me better and i can see them i saw it on a youtube video calling it a social box, they play and and eat in there and i sit with them for every meal.

    Today whilst doing this Jasmine escaped but did not run and hide, she was taunting Sully who was in the social box :D then i managed to get her to go back into the enclosure with some creative scratching!

    I have a few things I wanted some advice on as people were so nice when I posted last time:
    1) Am I doing anything wrong with them, obviously i let them out initially too early but i have them secure now, any tips or advice on what to do to get them to trust me more etc
    2) Has anyone had luck with pheromones i was wondering about getting a spray but not sure if they are are any good etc, will that calm sully down a bit and make him more open to interactions
    3) I saw a video about early neutering etc, what do people think about getting them neutered early liek at 10 weeks, i really don't want them reproducing
    4) When do you know to let them out
    5) any other tips and tricks you guys know to help us in our journey.
     
  2. chillminx

    chillminx PetForums VIP

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    Hi @Jasmine & Jafar - it sounds as though you are making good progress with the two little ones :)

    What is the "sealed enclosure" - is it a room with a mesh door so they can see out, and is the room large enough for you to spend lots of time in there with them, not just when they are awake & playful but also at times when they are resting or asleep?

    With the cage (or Social Box as Kitten Lady calls it) I believe the idea is to put each kitten in it on their own so you can get them to interact with you instead of with each other for a while.

    My experience is the more time you can spend in "their" space i.e. their safe room, the more easily they will begin to accept you. So I would be taking your meals with them, reading to them etc, and sitting quietly using your laptop, as well as playing with them.

    It is good to have set meals as you are doing, it gives a structure and routine to the day for them, and every time you serve their meals you are initiating a social interaction with them.

    As long as you have the kittens neutered around 4 months old it should be OK. There are not many UK vets yet who will neuter owned cats younger than that. 12 weeks is the youngest but that is usually for feral kittens who will be continuing to live as ferals after neutering. e.g. semi-feral farm cats or cats in a feral colony.

    We do use Feliway Classic and Feliway Friends diffusers in the Shelter I volunteer for, to help newcomers settle in and cope with sharing pens with cats they do not know. I can't say whether it would help your two be more trusting, but may be worth a try. I have never used Feliway when socialising timid kittens or cats myself. Probably because I've found that slow and gradual desensitisation is the way that has worked best for me with socialising such cats and kittens. And also making sure the pace is dictated by the cat or the kitten themselves.

    I think you will just know from how they interact with you when it will be time for them to leave their safe room and have a bit bigger area of your homer to explore. I do it room by room, one room at a time every couple of weeks, with kittens.
     
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  3. Jasmine & Jafar

    Jasmine & Jafar PetForums Newbie

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    Thanks for the response Chillminx, its a puppy training enclosure and its in our front room so they are always around us 7181z6CFa4L._AC_SL1500_.jpg

    when they came to the house first they were hiding constantly and we couldn't interact with them, since we put them in here and controlled their meals with social interactions we have started being able to hold them and they are becoming desensitized to the sounds of our home.

    I'm going to try out some feliway classic in a diffuser as it says it can help with hiding, cant hurt for 20 quid
     
  4. chillminx

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    Ah, that's what you mean by a "social box" - a training enclosure. I prefer your one to the tiny cage I saw on Youtube, which looked suitable for a hamster not a pair of kittens!

    When they are not in the puppy training enclosure they are in their safe room I imagine?
     
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