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Elimination diets

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by chillminx, Dec 29, 2018.


  1. chillminx

    chillminx PetForums VIP

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    Chronic itching, particularly on the head, face, or neck, (but elsewhere too) can be a sign of a food allergy in a cat, especially when other possible causes (such as a flea allergy or ear mites) have been ruled out by the vet.

    Food allergies can also be a cause of chronic diarrhoea, or frequent episodes of vomiting in some cases.

    The only scientific way to get reliable results from an allergy test is to put the cat on an elimination diet for 8 to 10 weeks. Most food allergies in cats are to grains, dairy products or specific meat proteins.

    Stage 1 of the diet is to feed the cat a grain-free "novel" protein. i.e. either kangaroo, or goat or reindeer, or horse, or venison. (suitable foods are available on line). This is done for 8 - 10 weeks, & nothing else given except water.

    Stage 2 of the diet is reintroducing the usual meat proteins one at a time, as a challenge to the immune system, every 3 weeks.e.g. lamb, turkey, pork, chicken, beef, fish. These must be guaranteed single proteins and grain free. (suitable foods are available on line, but not in UK stores) A daily log is kept of symptoms.

    Stage 3 is to exclude the identified allergens from the diet permanently and feed a rotated diet of the remaining proteins (and any of the novel proteins).

    Combined with the special diet as outlined above, Omega 3 is definitely helpful with cases of allergies. I use Aniforte Omega 3 extract for my cats, as it is extracted from white fish and does not smell as strongly as the stuff extracted from salmon. It comes as a loose powder and is easy to add to food. Only a little is needed, and it should be introduced gradually to avoid a loose stool.

    https://www.aniforte.co.uk/collections/cats/products/aniforte-omega-3-extract-100g
     
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    The only way to get reliable results is to use a novel protein. The diet must also be dairy free and grain free (which includes no rice).

    I think it is useful to rule out other possible environmental allergens in the home that could affect skin and ears. e.g.

    1/ use only non-bio unscented laundry liquid for your own bedding and the cat's bedding. (Tesco sells Surcare, Boots and Waitrose sell their own makes).

    2/ do not use fabric softener

    3/ use no chemical cleaners on worktops and hard floors. Instead use a weak solution of white vinegar, cooled boiled water and lemon juice or strips of lemon peel soaked in the vinegar.

    4/ use no plug-in scent diffusers, scented candles, room spray or hair spray.

    The choice of novel protein foods is as follows:-

    1/ Kangaroo - by Catz Finefood Purrr either from Zooplus UK or from Pets Menu UK

    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/catz_finefood/catz_finefood_cans/525027

    https://www.pets-menu.co.uk/shop/cat/wet-food-for-cats/catz-finefood/p-72196.htm


    2/ Reindeer, goat or horse - from Vet Concept

    https://www.vet-concept.com/für-die-katze/nassnahrung/katzenmenü-rentier

    https://www.vet-concept.com/für-die-katze/nassnahrung/katzenmenü-ziege

    https://www.vet-concept.com/für-die-katze/nassnahrung/katzenmenünbsp;sana-pferd


    3/ Ropocat, kangaroo, venison or horse - from Fuettern-mit-spass in Germany

    https://www.fuettern-mit-spass.de/katzenfutter/nassfutter/ropocat/

    (please note minimum delivery charge to the UK).


    4/ Mjamjam, horse or kangaroo - from Fuettern-mit-spass

    https://www.fuettern-mit-spass.de/katzenfutter/nassfutter/mjamjam/

    (please note minimum delivery charge to the UK)


    5/ Mjamjam, horse with pumpkin - from Zoo-bio UK

    https://www.zoo-bio.co.uk/mjamjam/61387-tasty-horse-with-steamed-pumpkin


    Choose just one of these novel protein foods (kangaroo is often well liked by cats ) and feed her that and water for 8 to 10 weeks. Nothing else.



    For stage 2 of the diet, you'll need single protein grain free foods as follows:

    1/Single protein Lamb - Caz Finefood Purrr from Pets Menu UK or Mac's Sensitive Lamb from Zooplus UK

    https://www.pets-menu.co.uk/shop/cat/wet-food-for-cats/catz-finefood/p-72206.htm

    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/macs/cans/680988



    2/ Single protein Chicken - Catz Finefood Purrr - from Pets Menu UK, or Granatapet pure chicken from Zooplus UK or Tundra pure chicken from Alltails UK

    https://www.pets-menu.co.uk/shop/cat/wet-food-for-cats/catz-finefood/p-72186.htm

    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/granatapet/wet/507806

    https://alltails.co.uk/cat/cat-food/Wet-Cat-Food/Tundra-Cat-Chicken-Pure-6-200g



    3/ Single protein fish (salmon) - Catz Finefood Purrr - Pets Menu UK

    https://www.pets-menu.co.uk/shop/cat/wet-food-for-cats/catz-finefood/p-72191.htm


    4/ Single Protein Pork - Catz Finefood Purrr - Pets Menu UK

    https://www.pets-menu.co.uk/shop/cat/wet-food-for-cats/catz-finefood/p-72201.htm



    5/ Single protein Turkey - Mac's Sensitive pure turkey from Zooplus UK or Tundra pure turkey from Alltails UK

    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/macs/cans/680988

    https://alltails.co.uk/cat/cat-food/Wet-Cat-Food/Tundra-Cat-Turkey-Pure-6-200g



    6/ Single protein beef (veal) - Granatapet Pure Veal from Zooplus UK

    https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/canned_cat_food_pouches/granatapet/wet/507806


    7/Single protein foods also by Ropocat and Mjamjam - from Fuettern-mit-spass

    https://www.fuettern-mit-spass.de/katzenfutter/nassfutter/ropocat/

    https://www.fuettern-mit-spass.de/katzenfutter/nassfutter/mjamjam/


    Each food is reintroduced to challenge the immune system, one at a time every 3 weeks. A daily detailed log of symptoms is kept.

    As beef, chicken and fish are statistically the most common feline food allergens I would leave those 3 last to reintroduce.
     
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    Hello! I'm a new member and I found this forum while I was searching useful information about my cats allergies. My one year old cat has been diagnosed with food allergies and is taking medication at the moment. I've be reading about the elimination diet, but I have a question. How do you introduce the new food? My cat usually has soft stools, I don't want to cause any more problems.
     
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    Hi there. :)

    It is best to introduce all new foods slowly over a period of several days. This applies to novel protein foods as well as to recipes containing the meat proteins she is used to.

    I put a teaspoonful of the new food on a separate saucer alongside the cat's normal dish of food. If the new food is eaten within a couple of hours and there is no adverse reaction later in the litter tray, increase to a tablespoon of the new food the next day, on a separate dish to the normal food.

    if the food is eaten and there is no adverse reaction then continue to increase the new food gradually and decrease the old food until she is eating just the new food.

    If she refuses to eat the new food at all after several days of offering her fresh samples as above, then give up and try another new food, same method as above.

    Is your cat on steroids ? Are they long acting steroids, or a course of oral steroids? Just to mention you will not get reliable results from an elimination diet while the steroids are still effective. This doesn't mean you have to wait to change her diet, you can do that straight away, but you will not know for sure if the new diet is helping her until the effects of the steroids have worn off. (with long acting steroids this could be a month or more from her last injection).

    Are you planning to put her on a novel protein diet as the first stage of the elimination diet?
     
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    Hey @chillminx , I love your food list. That's really immensely helpful.

    There are a few more single protein foods I am aware off (including horse), such as from Ropocat (they do kangaroo too) and MjamMjam. Would you like me to pm you those so that you can update your original post?

    No worries if not :)
     
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    Hi @Hobbs2004! Nice to see you! :)

    Ropocat makes a kangaroo single protein recipe, a venison one, and a horse one, and yes, they should really be listed on this pinned thread as you say.

    Really the reason I haven't listed them is that since The Happy Kitty Co closed the only place folk from the UK can buy the novel protein Ropocat flavours is from Fuettern-mit-spass. While I am happy to buy from F-M-S (great store with excellent customer service) the fact is their minimum delivery charges are high in comparison e.g. with Zooplus (with its free delivery over a certain spend.)

    The prospect for a worried cat owner with an unwell cat, of buying a batch of unknown cat foods for their cat to try is a bit daunting, and high delivery costs may be off-putting. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying the elimination diet for their cat..

    But you're right, the Ropocat single novel proteins should be listed so people are aware there is this option. I will add to my original thread.

    Mjamjam is a good food. There is a Horse and Pumpkin single protein recipe available from Zoo-bio UK (where one can also buy the Catz Finefood Purrr range of single protein foods listed earlier in this thread):

    Mjamjam Horse and Pumpkin can also be bought from Fuettern-mit-spass, as can the Mjamjam kangaroo recipe:

    Thank your for your input, it is appreciated. :)

    p.s. if I missed anything else please let me know :)
     
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    Thank you so much for you reply, It is really helpful.

    He's on prednicare and piriton at the moment. We are planning with the vet to lower the dose to half a tablet any other day and leave piriton long term. I bought some dry food with hydrolyzed protein. From what I read should act like a "novel" protein for the immune system and I'm planning to buy some wet food with horse or kangaroo and see if he likes them. He really loves dry food more than wet. I'm planning to use the hypoallergenic dry food and wet food (kangaroo and horse) for 8/10 weeks and then try with one protein at time. He's having GI problem also, so I'm hoping that despite the medications I would be able to see an improvement in his stools.

    I noticed the mjamjam wet food on Amazon.co.uk. They are also available on prime if this could help.
     
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    @Daphne_de - the problem using dry food for an elimination diet is there are so many ingredients in it that could make it unsuitable for the purpose..

    Hydrolized protein is usually a protein such as chicken, and chicken is not a novel protein, even in its hydrolized form.The immune system is not fooled by it no matter what the manufacturers like to say. I tried one of my cats on hydrolized protein food some years ago when I was trying to find out the cause of his dermatitis, and his skin reacted badly to it.

    You are much better feeding him just the horse or kangaroo wet food for the 8/10 weeks of Stage 1 and leaving all dry food out of his diet. Even for stage 2 when you will be introducing challenges I would leave the dry food until last and introduce it as a challenge on its own. That way you will be able to tell more accurately if the dry food is a problem for him.
     
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    This is the composition
    Hydrolyzate fish protein, rice starch, fish oil, calcium carbonate, fructoligosaccharides (0.6%), potassium chloride, calcium sulfate dihydrate, mono-dicalcium phosphate, sodium chloride, Marigold extract (source of lutein). Protein sources: hydrolyzate fish protein. Sources of carbohydrates: rice starch.

    I chose them just because is fish and I suspect he's allergic to chicken. Anyway I think you are right, I'll try and feed him just with novel protein, at least for 6/8 weeks.
     
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    Mmm! hydrolized fish protein (fish is a common food allergen for cats), rice starch and fish oil (both common food allergens in sensitive cats). I definitely would avoid this food for him until you have completed the 8 to 10 week diet (it needs to be longer than usual because he is still having an effect from the steroids) using a novel protein. :)
     
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    Ok! Will do! Thank you so much for that!
     
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