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Dogs in muzzles

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Bagrat, Sep 18, 2013.


  1. Bagrat

    Bagrat PetForums VIP

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    I have only seen a couple of dogs in muzzles in all my 40 years of dog ownership and only at a distance( strange I know). Jackson is not aggressive but his approach to other dogs is asking for trouble as it is inappropriate ( we do not approach other dogs on leash, we are working on this).
    I just wondered if you have noticed any change in another dog's behaviour when approached by a dog in a muzzle . I wondered if they would pick up on the anxiety of their owner for example, if the owner thought" oops -muzzle nasty dog".
     
  2. cbrookman

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    I am tempted to put muzzles on my dogs after a morning of them disappearing into the bushes and coming back with their mouths covered in what I think may have been human cr*p!!!! If I see a dog in a muzzle and it is off lead I approach it calmly in exactly the same way as any other dog because it could be wearing a muzzle due to its scavenging habit. Also if the dog is off lead like mine then I know that mine are non aggressive so that the muzzled dog can't do them much damage if it was to go for them. If the muzzled dog is being kept on a lead away from others then I put mine on a lead too just to make things easier for the other owner. MY dogs approach a muzzled dog in exactly the same way as a non muzzled dog and it seems its only the humans that notice because all their interaction is through sniffing (at other end!) and body language (head bowing etc) and the mouth/muzzle doesn't really play a part in this.
     
  3. 2Hounds

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    Other dogs don't seem as bothered by the muzzle, though may not appreciate the hard plastic in sensitive regions if the muzzled dog isn't a gentle greeter. I suppose if owner tenses up it could put the dog on edge but then dogs tend to be better at reading other dogs body language than us.
     
  4. Burrowzig

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    If I see a muzzled dog, I don't assume it's aggressive as there can be so many other reasons like scavenging. I look at the dog's body language and make my judgements about what to do from that. I'd naturally give a wider berth though, just human caution.
     
  5. cravensmum

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    I met my first muzzled dog on Sunday.

    I have met this dog a few times before and it wasn't muzzled and I must admit I was a bit more wary of it wearing it's muzzle.:eek:

    But the dogs were not bothered at all.:)
     
  6. Julesky

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    Mine has happily played with a muzzled dalmation (muzzled cause it eats all kinds of crap)

    Another lady walks 2 collies, both offlead, one muzzled- the muzzled one constantly rushes mine snarling and barking- I put mine on lead and try to get rid of hers ....

    Whilst I doubt he would damage the other dog, it will not back down- I will not allow any escalation or contact- my dog will not run away, he'd face that off- she should put it on a lead- as she helpfully shouts over-- oh I should keep him on a lead shouldn't I?


    yes you buck eejit, you bloody should.

    Anyhooo - aye my dog doesn't seem to notice the muzzle, rather the rest of the behaviour.
     
  7. GingerRogers

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    People seem to think the muzzle is a big joke and make silly comments about my cute little dog :rolleyes:

    Dogs dont seem to discern any difference. The reason I muzzle is as I dont trust her not to snap at someones little precious and I dont want a dog fight on my hands, this is when off lead dogs approach us, I can control on lead dogs and her quite happily, I feel a lot more confident out and about with her in places where I expect we might see loose dogs, but actually it didnt happen that often as I dont walk in those places.

    Till I muzzled her :frown: in fact we have been approached by loose dogs 4 times in the 2 months or so I have been muzzling ninja, and not because I have changed my walking habits, we still walk in out of the way places or on the roads where you would hope dogs were all on lead.

    I got a warm glow, a bit odd, when I saw another little chap in town with his muzzle on he looked quite the little gent and was certainly no snarling beast.

    Ninja acts quite differently when muzzled, she is much better behaved, the latest thought is that she cant rely on her teeth to settle a score so has to use other behaviours, doggy body language type ones to get her thoughts across.

    So I would think dogs should react better to muzzled dogs rather than worse.

    She also doesn't run off so much, which I think is because she has realised she cant catch her own tea :p
     
  8. dandogman

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    If I see a muzzled dog I leash mine up... I'm not going to take the chance.

    Obviously if the owner explained it was for poo eating etc then I would let mine off to greet if the owner was happy.
     
  9. ClaireandDaisy

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    No. I find people are remarkably stupid most of the time wether the dog`s got a muzzle on or not.
    The worst was taking a muzzled dog to a Dog Show - she needed socialisation opportunities and was muzzled `just in case`. I got apparently sensible people charging up and trying to cuddle her! Plonkers!!!! They seemed to take it as a challenge. One T*t even said (after provoknig her into a reaction) while advancing on an obviously worried dog `It`s all right, dogs like me.`
    You learn a lot about people while training dogs.....
     
  10. GingerRogers

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    Just because a dog is muzzled it doesnt mean its either a 'scavenger' or 'nasty & aggressive' to steer clear of, certainly in ninjas case, (I know other dogs would be different, I know muzzle punches can do a lot of damage etc), but once she is muzzled then your dog is no longer in any danger, she isn't vicious she just acts like a terrier and will snap first ask questions later, muzzled she has to ask the questions first!
     
  11. JenKyzer

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    I only use our muzzle when i know we're going to a doggy area (to us - the start of the woods before we get to the bit that other dog walkers cant be bothered going to :p )
    When the muzzle is on; the owners suddenly spring into action to recall their dog and lead them up.. Why not do this when i'm stood at the side with my non-muzzled dog out of the way anyway.. we're choosing not to walk past you for a reason:rolleyes:!
    Overall we have much better walks and other owners have much better manners.. none of me shouting over 'don't let them come too close' 'oh its ok theyre ok' 'yeah but mines not!!'
    The dogs don't seem to bother about the muzzle. I'm glad the owners do though :)
    (is a bit saddening when mums usher their children out the way and give you a disapproving look.. but it's all part of the package i guess :) )
     
  12. cinnamontoast

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    People round my way must be thick: Zak is often muzzled in the busy part of the woods and on lead yet offlead dogs regularly run up to him and their owners are oblivious despite us walking down the path nice and obviously :rolleyes:

    I personally steer clear of muzzled dogs knowing that mine reacts poorly to strange dogs coming up to him. I don't know why it's muzzled so I leave it alone.
     
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    Chance is muzzled and people hurl their kids and dogs out of his way :rolleyes: quite sad really
     
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    This! Toby is the same P1000467.JPG
     
  15. SixStar

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    I have two dogs that wear muzzles and encounter very different reactions with each.

    Jake is a Greyhound, wears a muzzle purely because of his very high prey drive and the fact he would have a chew of any small fuzzy animal he came across. Greyhounds are probably the most commonly muzzled breed so most people see it as the norm and don't bat an eyelid - they rightly presume that he is friendly and just an ex-racer. People are often keen to keep their small dogs away (quite rightly so) but we've never had any negative experiences or comments.

    Alfie on the other hand! He's a Westie and is muzzled because he is child aggressive. We encounter a mixed bag and go from one extreme to the other - some people can't imagine for one moment that a small, cute, fluffy white dog is muzzled for aggression issues or think it is 'cute' or 'funny' that he is, and attempt to let kids or dogs come over to him without a second thought - or they go straight to the other end of the scale, and drag them away as fast as they can.

    I have to be honest, the second reaction suits us just fine. Alfie is blind, he doesn't like people, he despises children and doesn't care much for unknown dogs, so if the muzzle keeps people, their kids and their dogs away - then that's fine by us, and I purposely chose quite a 'mean' looking muzzle to assist with this.

    I have never had dogs react differently to mine wearing muzzles, and if I see a muzzled dog I will treat them in the same manner as an un-muzzled one - ie, keeping my dogs away and under control.
     
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  16. JenKyzer

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    Agree'd :)

    I want to keep dogs away as much as i can, Willow reacts much better when sat and she's watched the other dog for a bit.. if she lies down we're onto a winner :thumbup: if she stays alert.. we move on. We rarely allow a greet though :) unless we don't end up with a choice :rolleyes: then those don't go down great anyway and she wouldn't dream of letting this dog near even after the owners caught up and said 'its ok he/she is friendly!'
     
  17. Apollo2012

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    Apollo wears a muzzle and a I need space lead cover (he is fearful of strangers interacting with him), I've probably only had about 5 owners make an effort to keep there dogs away from him and actually ask me why he wears a muzzle, the rest just let their dogs run up to him while he's on his lead and half the time they say don't worry my dogs friendly :mad2:, I mean seriously I know Apollo isn't dog aggressive but they don't and wearing a muzzle wouldn't make him harmless if he was, my experience of people who comes across dogs with muzzles is most take no notice, I've had parents let their kids run up to him when they can clearly see he's wearing a muzzle (luckily he doesn't mind kids but I still don't allow them to pet him), random people try to pet him while he's muzzled, even trying to do it when im distracted by my toddler so they obviously know their in the wrong, I've had an argument with a woman who was convinced Apollo loved her when he was backing away from her and barking, I've had the 'its ok dogs love me' and a lad literally stop me and block me from walking any further because he 'wanted to pet the dog' he wouldnt listen when I asked him to move so he then he got told to **** off and pushed out the way by me. In all honesty I muzzle my boy for his own safety from the idiots of society.

    So in answer to your question no 95% of dog owners I come across don't care that my boy is wearing a muzzle and neither do their dogs
     
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    Still wouldn't take the chance. I wouldn't avoid the other party e.g. walk the other way, I would just leash my dogs up as I'm s responsible dog owner keeping my dogs safe. As I said - if the owner explained the reason for the muzzle then fine.
     
  19. Dogless

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    If a dog is muzzled I don't think much really, I watch the body language of dog and owner.

    Round here a fair few DA dogs are muzzled and walked offlead, notably a GSD who means business but who's owner always addresses the dog when he catches up with it saying "Don't be silly, it's not as if you can do anything you're muzzled" :rolleyes:. So those owners see a muzzle as an easy solution that allows their dogs offlead still even if the dog is still terrorising others..

    Where I used to live I met a few dogs who were muzzled for scavenging.

    There are enough loose unmuzzled DA dogs or over friendly dogs around for me to be cautious about all dogs and if I have Kilo then I avoid all dogs completely.

    Kilo is sometimes muzzled; I can't tell you about dog reactions to it really as we avoid all dogs. Rudi used to jump at it and try to chew it but then he was an obnoxious puppy and was swiftly trained not to. He wears it when we are in isolated places as he courses Rudi and in case of a "lone threatening stranger" situation. I suspect strongly and very much hope that I am being over cautious but better that than blasé.
     
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  20. BessieDog

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    I've only ever had to use a muzzle on my old cocker spaniel, and only in the house.

    He used to bully my GD - constantly. But normally it was vocal, with a bit of jumping up and growling down his ear. But occasionally he got quite horrible and would draw blood. Not big wounds, usually round the mouth. The GD never retaliated, or even told him off.

    So we'd muzzle him. Only for a short period. The effect was magical. With the muzzle he knew he couldn't bite.

    When the muzzle came off he had mellowed, and we didn't have to use it again for a couple of months. Was that coincidence? I don't know. But it seemed to work.

    Vicious little brat became the loveliest of dogs when the GD died. Not DA, cautious of other dogs but never growling or raising hackles - quite submissive in fact. He only had an issue with the dog he'd lived with.
     
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