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Dog (still) biting the leash!

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by CharWhale, Jun 25, 2018.


  1. CharWhale

    CharWhale PetForums Newbie

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    Hey there, I have a 6 year old Tri-Merle border collie who is putty in your hands at home, but as soon as you step outside its a drastic change! A bit of background on my troubled pup: He was a farm dog, that, was separated from both mum and dad at an early age and popped on adult food as soon as he was stripped from her. I know this because when I visited him, the mother and litter were places in separate stables and we were given a "complementary" bag of adult food for the little 8 week chap. At the time, we thought to take him home and socialise him with our older red and white border collie who was 6 at the time. We would hope he would take the pup under his wing and act as a role model. We knew that the pup should stay with mum a little longer but the breeder just wanted rid of the litter.

    SO fast forward to today, our pup is 6 years and the older dog is 13 years. He's grown grumpy in his age and often growls at other dogs, but not toward people. As soon as the older one gets his hind up, the younger one goes in guns blazing - barking as much as he can. And it can take anything to set the younger of the two off. If there's a dog, he will get excited and bark and bite the lead viciously. If there is a group of kids running around, the same occurs. Even if you try and cross the road but tell him to wait as there's cars - he will go ballistic at the lead!! He could even be walking happily, then he would turn and just start biting the lead and barking. If you run, he will attack the lead. If you try and take a stick from him, its 50/50 between you an the lead. And it is well known NOT to step on his tail - otherwise he will go for you!

    Apart from his dissatisfaction for being on the lead, he really is putty in your hands at home, he is loving and adores cuddles. He is always looking out for the pack and won't leave if everyone is not in tow. But we've tried everything to stop him biting his lead. We brought a toy on walks, didn't work. Added stones to a bottle and shook it to try scare him, but to no avail. Also added a treat supplement as he is very food orientated but still doesn't work. We also bought a Kevlar lead that he cannot chew through - instead he may chew you out of frustration! He is a very anxious dog as well.

    Is there anything you can do to help? I just want to walk him calmly, and be able to entrust him with friends when we go on holidays - not worrying if he will be a big hassle!!

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. Twiggy

    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    Have I got this right; you got your puppy at 8 weeks old?

    Has your collie always bitten the lead or if not when did it start?

    Have you ever done any training with him ie "leave - sit - down - heel - come" - etc.?

    How much exercise does he get per day and how much of that is free running?

    Need more information to be able to answer your question.
     
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    Rafa PetForums VIP

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    Not really.

    8 weeks old is fine for a pup to go on to a new home.
     
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  4. CharWhale

    CharWhale PetForums Newbie

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    So, we got him at around 8 weeks. He has always bitten the lead yes and when you try to distract him with a command, there is no use! He gets plenty of exercise per day - a walk in the morning, a play during midday and a walk in the evening. Each walk ranges from 1 hour - 3 depending on time that we have around working hours. He always is let of the lead as well- to the point of happy panting! sometimes if we wear him out enough, he doesn't have the energy to bite the lead, but none the less, something could set him off!

    Please let me know if you need more info :)
     
  5. Twiggy

    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    OK. Well the lead biting is either frustration or excitement (or a bit of both) and really should have been addressed years ago as it's now ingrained behaviour. Having said that many collies do the same. Have you tried a metal chain lead, which would probably be a quick fix for the moment?

    You can't tire collies out and although they most certainly need a decent amount of exercise (including free running) every day, training is far more important IMO. Using their brains tires them out much more quickly.

    Have you thought about joining a decent local dog training class, preferably with a collie savvy instructor? Roughly whereabouts are you (assuming UK) as maybe one of us knows a good class in your area.
     
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    I agree with @Twiggy, a good training class IMO is a must if you want to start addressing these 'issues'.

    Because he has been practicing these behaviours for years now it may not be easy to resolve quickly. It sounds as if he has a great time but doesn't really know boundaries & may have trouble controlling his arousal if all his activities seem to be just 'wearing him out'. Dogs need to be taught to control their arousal levels & there can be lots of simple exercises to do but it would be better to learn this from a skilled trainer who can assess you & your dog to ensure you are building his skills set correctly rather than just creating frustration.

    Training doesn't have to be boring at all tho, my dogs love training sessions & they are great for building a relationship wit your dog as well as teaching him what you want him to do & to challenge him mentally.
     
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    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    Have a look at my all time favourite collie training video. It's Susan Garratt with her late agility champion and it says it all really:

     
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